My excuse, and a suggestion [Re: [Icar] icar futures?]

Brian E Carpenter <brc@zurich.ibm.com> Thu, 14 October 2004 10:21 UTC

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Let me explain why I didn't volunteer.

1. Too busy in the last few weeks to think seriously about it.

2. Additionally, as a member of Harald's General Area review team,
I get a few reviews to do every two weeks, plus I spontaneously
review a couple of IDs a week in my areas of interest.
So (if I had found time to think about it), I'm pretty sure I
would have concluded I have no spare capacity.

Am I unusual among the people on this list? I don't think so.

Rather than giving up, I think this WG should orchestrate a
recruiting drive during the November IETF. Set up a desk in
the registration area, hang a poster, arrange for volunteers
to staff the desk and sign people on. (And of course, send
another solicitation to ietf@ietf.org just before the meeting,
telling people they will have a final chance to help.)

If that fails, go to end of file.

     Brian
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Brian E Carpenter
Distinguished Engineer, Internet Standards & Technology, IBM




Mark Allman wrote:
>  
> Folks-
> 
> From my seat, this is what I have observed:
> 
>   * there has been no list traffic
> 
>   * there has not been any updating of the early review i-d
> 
>   * there has been no clamoring for late review guidance
> 
>   * the call for reviewers for the ICAR experiment netted 7 reviewers
> 
>      + plus 1 who said "ok", but never got back to me with his
>        information; plus another who said "as soon as I qualify"
>      + and, even some of the most vocal advocates of early review didn't
>        belly up when the time to do so came around
> 
>   * the IESG did not enthusiastically offer assistance with choosing WGs
>     to help seed the process
> 
> This doesn't look like a lovely picture to me.  This really smells like
> ICAR is something the community does not want.  Or, at least does not
> want to put their energy into, in practice.  Joel and I would appreciate
> any thoughts on moving forward (and, saying "ok, it didn't work" **is**
> a path forward).
> 
> Thoughts?
> 
> Thanks,
> allman
> 
> 
> --
> Mark Allman -- ICIR -- http://www.icir.org/mallman/
> 
> 
> 
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