Re: Late review management (Re: [Icar] independence of reviews; variability)
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Subject: Re: Late review management (Re: [Icar] independence of reviews;
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On 12 mar 2004, at 00.40, Eric Rosen wrote: > One advantage of earlier, wider review is that it may make it > politically > more difficult for an AD to carry out his own political agenda. I wonder. My hypothesis is that early reviews, especially if they are tightly linked with the with the IESG and AD, will be more likely to point out how to come in line with the AD's agenda. I think it is like the trend we see with standardized testing - all the education tends toward passing the test, not with knowledge per se. a. _______________________________________________ Icar mailing list Icar@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/icar
- [Icar] independence of reviews; variability Dave Crocker
- Re: [Icar] independence of reviews; variability Dave Crocker
- Re: [Icar] independence of reviews; variability Spencer Dawkins
- Re: [Icar] independence of reviews; variability Mark Allman
- Re: [Icar] independence of reviews; variability Dave Crocker
- Late review management (Re: [Icar] independence o… Harald Tveit Alvestrand
- Re: [Icar] independence of reviews; variability Margaret Wasserman
- Re: [Icar] independence of reviews; variability Dave Crocker
- Re: Late review management (Re: [Icar] independen… Dave Crocker
- Re: Late review management (Re: [Icar] independen… Margaret Wasserman
- Re: Late review management (Re: [Icar] independen… David Meyer
- Re: Late review management (Re: [Icar] independen… David Meyer
- Re: Late review management (Re: [Icar] independen… Harald Tveit Alvestrand
- Re: Late review management (Re: [Icar] independen… Margaret Wasserman
- Re: Late review management (Re: [Icar] independen… David Meyer
- Re: Late review management (Re: [Icar] independen… Eric Rosen
- Re: Late review management (Re: [Icar] independen… Scott W Brim
- Re: Late review management (Re: [Icar] independen… Harald Tveit Alvestrand
- Re: Late review management (Re: [Icar] independen… avri
- Re: Late review management (Re: [Icar] independen… Dave Crocker
- Re: Late review management (Re: [Icar] independen… Eric Rosen
- Re: Late review management (Re: [Icar] independen… Dave Crocker
- Re: Late review management (Re: [Icar] independen… Harald Tveit Alvestrand
- Re: [Icar] independence of reviews; variability Mark Allman