Re: [Icar] an early review experiment
Mark Allman <mallman@icir.org> Wed, 19 May 2004 21:58 UTC
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Subject: Re: [Icar] an early review experiment
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> If I were to sketch the "weighyness" space of early, cross area reviews,
> it'd be something like this:
>
> + one end of the spectrum would be that ICAR-type comments must be
> addressed before the document moves forward
>
> + the other end of the space seems to me to be that the ICAR-type
> reviews are just like any other review that comes in from a
> community member (i.e., no special status)
>
> + there may be middle ground
>
> It'd be nice to hear thoughts on where folks are in this space.
Let me revise the first bullet above ...
+ one end of the spectrum would be that ICAR-type comments must be
followed before the document moves forward (i.e., these comments are
binding on the WG and the WG must fix the document accordingly)
allman
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- Re: [Icar] an early review experiment Spencer Dawkins
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