Re: [icnrg] Encoding for Robust Immutable Storage (ERIS)

Dirk Kutscher <ietf@dkutscher.net> Fri, 18 December 2020 12:15 UTC

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Subject: Re: [icnrg] Encoding for Robust Immutable Storage (ERIS)
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Hi,

> I'd like to request feedback and comments on a proposal I have been
> working on: Encoding for Robust Immutable Storage (ERIS)
> (http://purl.org/eris).

thanks for the link.

I didn't have a chance to check all the details yet, but here are two 
pointers for you (not sure you are already aware):

1. Manifests for File-like collections
	* https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-irtf-icnrg-flic-02
     * 
https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/interim-2020-icnrg-04/materials/slides-interim-2020-icnrg-04-sessa-recap-of-recent-flic-discussion-00

2. RFC 6920: Naming Things with Hashes
     * https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc6920
     * URI scheme for specifying hashes in URIs with algorithm agility 
and different representation formats


> This work has been very much inspired by ideas from the ICN community
> and I hope to eventually use NFD for transporting blocks of ERIS 
> encoded
> content.

That's a great idea. I am sure you have noticed that ICN has optional 
encryption of DATA messages.

If you are interested, I think it could be useful to understand how your 
application (confidential, censorship-resistant content-based 
communication) could be mapped to ICN.

Best regards,
Dirk







> I'd be very happy for your comments and thoughts.
>
> Best regards,
> pukkamustard
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