Re: [icnrg] Last Call: draft-irtf-icnrg-icnlowpan

"Thomas C. Schmidt" <t.schmidt@haw-hamburg.de> Tue, 11 February 2020 12:07 UTC

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Subject: Re: [icnrg] Last Call: draft-irtf-icnrg-icnlowpan
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Hi,

On 11/02/2020 11:54, Dirk Kutscher wrote:

>> Drafts to be published as RFCs in the IRTF stream need to include
>> various notices, as described in RFC 5743 Section 2.1. Some of those
>> notices look to be missing from this draft and will need to be added
>> before it can be published.
> 
> Yes, good point — that should be added.
> 
>> It’s also important for a draft to be published as an Experimental
>> RFC to be clear about what experiment being performed. Section 10 of
>> the draft includes a brief implementation report, describing
>> experiments that have been conducted using this protocol, which is
>> good, but the draft says very little about what experiments remain to
>> be done and what can be learnt from further experimental deployment of
>> this protocol. Would it be possible to add some additional context
>> about how this fits with ongoing experiments in this space?
> 
> So, that may actually be a good general advice for publishing
> Experimental RFCs in the IRTF. Normally, we would say that a
> specification (like this one) would hopefully lead to additional
> implementations, so that there would be interop tests and potentially
> tests in larger networks (scalability, performance etc.).
> 
> In the IRTF, we might be able to do a little better and provide some
> guidance as to what might be interesting experiments to do, what are
> things that we need to understand better etc.
> 
> How do the authors feel about adding something in this direction?
> 

Authors feel fine: We agree and will add such parts.

> 
> Regarding next steps, we (chairs) suggest that the authors produce a
> revision reflecting those comments. Since these are relatively minor, we
> don’t need another last call (unless the authors prefer that), so that
> we would then move to IRSG review.

Yup, great: We should be able to provide within this month.

Best,
  Thomas


>>
>>
>>> On 22 Jan 2020, at 08:42, Dirk Kutscher <ietf@dkutscher.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello ICNRG,
>>>
>>> This is a last call for comments on draft-irtf-icnrg-icnlowpan (ICN
>>> Adaptation to LowPAN Networks (ICN LoWPAN)).
>>>
>>> We want to publish this as an Experimental RFC. Please read it and
>>> let us know if you think there are issues. The last call ends on
>>> February 7th, i.e., 2.5 weeks from today.
>>>
>>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-irtf-icnrg-icnlowpan/
>>>
>>> Abstract
>>>    This document defines a convergence layer for CCNx and NDN over
>>> IEEE
>>>    802.15.4 LoWPAN networks.  A new frame format is specified to adapt
>>>    CCNx and NDN packets to the small MTU size of IEEE 802.15.4.  For
>>>    that, syntactic and semantic changes to the TLV-based header
>>> formats
>>>    are described.  To support compatibility with other LoWPAN
>>>    technologies that may coexist on a wireless medium, the dispatching
>>>    scheme provided by 6LoWPAN is extended to include new dispatch
>>> types
>>>    for CCNx and NDN.  Additionally, the link fragmentation component
>>> of
>>>    the 6LoWPAN dispatching framework is applied to ICN chunks.  In its
>>>    second part, the document defines stateless and stateful
>>> compression
>>>    schemes to improve efficiency on constrained links.  Stateless
>>>    compression reduces TLV expressions to static header fields for
>>>    common use cases.  Stateful compression schemes elide state local
>>> to
>>>    the LoWPAN and replace names in data packets by short local
>>>    identifiers.
>>>
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>> Dirk on behalf of ICNRG chairs
>>>
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>>
>>
>> -- 
>> Colin Perkins
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