Re: [icnrg] Last Call: draft-oran-icnrg-qosarch
Hitoshi Asaeda <asaeda@ieee.org> Tue, 11 February 2020 11:22 UTC
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From: Hitoshi Asaeda <asaeda@ieee.org>
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Subject: Re: [icnrg] Last Call: draft-oran-icnrg-qosarch
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Hi, Sorry for the late response. I have no concern about moving this forward, yet suggest to consider one thing. For the effective use of in-network cache, network coding is also helpful to improve the data transmission quality. I therefore recommend to add some statement explaining the way of its use or adoption with some references already discussing the advantages (or even difficulties) for ICN. Regards, Hitoshi > On Feb 11, 2020, at 20:00, Dirk Kutscher <ietf@dkutscher.net> wrote: > > Thanks, Colin. > >> I think it’s reasonable to publish this as a position paper, provided the RG is okay with that, but would it be possible to add a few words to the Introduction to explain why the ICN RG thinks this is best published as a position paper? (To be clear that the points in RFC 5743 Section 2.1 are explicitly addressed) > > Yes, let’s do that. I will draft some lines from an ICNRG perspective that Dave could consider including here. > >> Also, the short title (“ICN QoS Architecture”) on each page can be read as perhaps implying a stronger status than intended. Is there space to change it to something like “Proposed ICN QoS Architecture” instead? > > Yes, good point. Dave already noted that “ICN QoS Architecture Considerations” (or something in that direction) is more appropriate and will change the draft accordingly. > > Again, the last call period for this draft is over. If people have other comments, please share them now. We will move to IRSG review when the new version is ready. > > Thanks, > Dirk > > > >> Colin >> >> >> >> >>> We (Dave as the author, and Börje & myself as chairs) think that the draft is useful and mature enough so that we can move it towards publication, and I would therefore like to last-call it. Please read it and let us know if you think there are issues. The last call ends on February 7th, i.e., 2.5 weeks from today. >>> >>> >>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-oran-icnrg-qosarch/ >>> >>> Abstract >>> >>> This is a position paper. It documents the author's personal views >>> on how Quality of Service (QoS) capabilities ought to be accommodated >>> in ICN protocols like CCNx or NDN which employ flow-balanced >>> Interest/Data exchanges and hop-by-hop forwarding state as their >>> fundamental machinery. It argues that such protocols demand a >>> substantially different approach to QoS from that taken in TCP/IP, >>> and proposes specific design patterns to achieve both classification >>> and differentiated QoS treatment on both a flow and aggregate basis. >>> It also considers the effect of caches as a resource in addition to >>> memory, CPU and link bandwidth that should be subject to explicitly >>> unfair resource allocation. The proposed methods are intended to >>> operate purely at the network layer, providing the primitives needed >>> to achieve both transport and higher layer QoS objectives. It >>> explicitly excludes any discussion of Quality of Experience (QoE) >>> which can only be assessed and controlled at the application layer or >>> above. >>> >>> Best regards, >>> Dirk >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> icnrg mailing list >>> icnrg@irtf.org >>> https://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/icnrg >> >> >> >> -- >> Colin Perkins >> https://csperkins.org/ >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> icnrg mailing list >> icnrg@irtf.org >> https://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/icnrg > > _______________________________________________ > icnrg mailing list > icnrg@irtf.org > https://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/icnrg
- [icnrg] Last Call: draft-oran-icnrg-qosarch Dirk Kutscher
- Re: [icnrg] Last Call: draft-oran-icnrg-qosarch Colin Perkins
- Re: [icnrg] Last Call: draft-oran-icnrg-qosarch Dirk Kutscher
- Re: [icnrg] Last Call: draft-oran-icnrg-qosarch Hitoshi Asaeda
- Re: [icnrg] Last Call: draft-oran-icnrg-qosarch David R. Oran
- Re: [icnrg] Last Call: draft-oran-icnrg-qosarch Colin Perkins