[icnrg] Draft Minutes of ICNRG @ IETF 106
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Corrections/comments to the chairs. We will post these by end of IETF on Friday. Many thanks to Marie-Jose for her once-again great efforts as note taker. ICNRG Chairs ————————— ICNRG meeting Monday November 18 - 10-12pm IETF 106 - Singapore 🇸🇬 Olivia Room Raffles Convention Centre Chairs Intro: Agenda Bashing, Minutes taker, Bluesheets, (15 min) https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/106/materials/slides-106-icnrg-chairs-presentation-01 Review of the new Note Well for IRTF Report from interim meeting in Macau Post ICN2019 (September) @ U. Macau (see interim meeting in the wiki for the slides) - Touching the Future Internet - City U. Hong Kong - School of Creative Media NDN to request and fetch video content selectively. Uses Derivative’s Touch video platform. - ICN LowPan - QoS for ICN in the IoT - LPWAN Compared to LowPAN - ICN over LoRa Intelligent water meter RIOT integration ICN and LoRa for IETF 107 0 interest? Contact Dirk Kutscher. - Push it - update 2 ICNRG Drafts - Status overview Presentation/Discussion on Flow Balance draft - Dave Oran (15 min) https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-oran-icnrg-flowbalance/ https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/106/materials/slides-106-icnrg-flow-balance-dave-oran-00 Different issues described per QoS potential mechanisms and impact (see draft). Comment: goal is to get people to read the draft (not a lot of people did at this point). Updated File-Like ICN Collection (FLIC) draft - Dave Oran (10 min) https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-irtf-icnrg-flic/ https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/106/materials/slides-106-icnrg-flic-update-dave-oran-00 Manifest draft revisited after discussions in Montreal. Deltas to the original draft presented. Python implantation available. Not ready for last call. Security section needed. Important topic to be considered - ICN/CCN community should implement this. Goal is to publish this year. Thanks to Marc Mosko. NRS documents: Updates - Jungha Hong (10 min) https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-irtf-icnrg-nrs-requirements/ https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-irtf-icnrg-nrsarch-considerations/ https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/106/materials/slides-106-icnrg-nrs-update-00 Name resolution work at ETRI. 2 documents in RG last call; Design Guideline may require a second last call but not the Architecture one. Summary of the comments to the documents. Q (Thomas Schmidt): enforcement of the name administration A: we are not looking at namespace Q: look at DNS cannot change names A: NRS is similar to DNS but different enough - will reply by email Q (Stew Card): Security is ACL-like; name resolution capability based access control would be better. Did you consider it. A: We will consider. New draft: Path Steering in CCNx and NDN - Dave Oran (10 min) https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-oran-icnrg-pathsteering/ https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/106/materials/slides-106-icnrg-path-steering-dave-oran-00 Based on a paper in ICN2017: Moiseenko, I. and D. Oran, "Path Switching in Content Centric and Named Data Networks, in 4th ACM Conference on Information-Centric Networking (ICN 2017)", DOI 10.1145/3125719.3125721, September 2017, https://conferences.sigcomm.org/acm-icn/2017/proceedings/icn17-2.pdf Not an alternative to CCNinfo - a new mechanism/bags of tricks. Comments on the list are requested. New draft: TimeTLV - Thomas Schmidt (10 min) https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-gundogan-icnrg-ccnx-timetlv/ https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/106/materials/slides-106-icnrg-timetlv-thomas-schmidt-00 New draft but not new topics; related to discussions on LowPAN. Timers take a lot of energy; look at compressing them. See https://github.com/icnrg for tracking progress. Important to review. Update: ICN Adaptation to LowPAN Networks (ICN LoWPAN) - Thomas Schmidt (10 min) https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-irtf-icnrg-icnlowpan/ https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/106/materials/slides-106-icnrg-icnlowpan-thomas-schmidt-00 Update on the draft. Comment (Dave O.): Seems poster child for manifest meta data (slide 3). Need to balance need for the manifest meta data and disturbing the draft. Good time to last call this draft - look for it on the draft. Update: Internet Protocol Tunneling over Content Centric Mobile Networks - Greg White (10 min) https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-irtf-icnrg-ipoc/ https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/106/materials/slides-106-icnrg-ipoc-update-00 Update on the draft. Comment (Thomas Schmidt): Help on IPV6. Comment (Dirk Kutscher): change CCN to CCNx. Q (Vera Li): Performance relative to overlay and underlay A (Greg): CCN over 5G discussed with native and non native implementations. New draft: Internet Services over ICN in 5G LAN Environments - Chonggang Wang (10 min) https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-trossen-icnrg-internet-icn-5glan-00 https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/106/materials/slides-106-icnrg-icn-5g-lan-chonggang-wang-00 Q (Dave O.): Reuning HHTP on top on ICN - what spec defines the mapping? A: APIs from ICN to the higher layer. Comment (Dave O.): This seems to take twice the packets. Update: Hop-by-Hop Authentication in Content-Centric Networking / Named Data Networking - Riuidong Li (10 min) https://cefore.net/draft-li-icnrg-hopauth-01.txt https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/106/materials/slides-106-icnrg-update-on-hop-by-hop-authentication-00 Presentation of results from Hackathon in Singapore (5 min) CeFore Implementation: https://github.com/IETF-Hackathon/ietf106-project-presentations/blob/master/hackathon-presentation-cefore-ietf106.pdf QoS Discussion: https://etherpad.ietf.org/p/notes-ietf-106-icnrg-hackathon?useMonospaceFont=true https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/slides-106-icnrg-informal-qos-discussion-sunday-am/ Interest for a Thursday morning discussion in the “open time” slot. Chairs Wrapup: (5 min) Planning for next ICNRG meetings Possible future Hackathon topics? Interim or Hackathon at IETF 107 Vancouver? Need discussion on hackaton especially since people want to organize something. ++++ end mjm Marie-José Montpetit, Ph.D. Research Affiliate, MIT Media Laboratory mariejose@mjmontpetit.com mariejo@mit.edu
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