[icnrg] Input to Inquiry on: ICN & Metaverse

Ike Alisson <ike.alisson@gmail.com> Wed, 09 November 2022 08:12 UTC

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Date: Wed, 09 Nov 2022 09:11:26 +0100
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Subject: [icnrg] Input to Inquiry on: ICN & Metaverse
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Hello Dirk et al,
On the subject at hand, please see below attached some of the enhancements
on Capabilities planned at 3GPP, as part of the "5G Advanced" Release (Rel.
18 & onwards).
To get a "better"  insights (to understand the impact of the Capabilities
on the System/Network level, preferably E2E), I may suggest that you also
get an insight into the Application Enabling Frameworks (AEF) and DAF (Data
Analytics Framework) (some insights on that also attached below) as well as
the challenges/issues/problems, currently experienced/related to Managing
Operations of "Disintegrated Networks" and (in the last 24 months) attempt
to implement a synergy between "Compute/Storage/Networking", on the one
hand, and "Communicaton" Solutions, on the other, as part of the adoption
of Cloud-native mechanism (Type of Clouds) in "Cellular" Networks/Systems
for selected (defined/specified End-user Services QoS (Latency/Delay E2E).

If the below  attached info is of no interest and/or use to you and/or the
group, it is just to press the "del" button.
//Ike A
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Den ons 9 nov. 2022 kl 03:56 skrev Dirk Kutscher <ietf@dkutscher.net>:

> Hello,
>
> yesterday, at the end of our meeting, we mentioned that want to gauge the
> group's interest about holding an ICNRG interim meeting, like a
> work-workshop, on Metaverse-related topics in the context of ICN.
>
> For example, questions to get this started could be:
>
>    - what interactions do we foresee for "Metaverse" systems, and how
>    could they be served by ICN concepts and mechanisms?
>    - we often talk about multi-destination delivery in ICN. How can we
>    gain more experimental experience? What is missing for building usable
>    applications?
>    - how do we envision hypermedia systems on top of ICN, and what is
>    needed for that, e.g., RESTFul ICN?
>    - security & architectures for Metaverse systems that provide the
>    necessary security/privacy services but still enable data sharing etc.
>    - decentralized and centralized operation
>    - seamless integration of in-network computing
>
> The outcome could be a research agenda and possibly new work items for
> ICNRG.
>
> We were thinking that end of November or beginning of September could be a
> good time.
>
> Please let us your thoughts on this, i.e.,:
>
>    - would you be interested to attend and/or contribute?
>    - do you have any comments on topics, objectives etc?
>    - any other feedback?
>
> Finally, there was a side meeting on Metaverse networking in the IETF on
> Monday. These are the slides that I presented:
> https://gitlab.com/dkutscher/pub/-/raw/main/ietf115-metaverse-kutscher.pdf?inline=false
>
> Thanks,
> Dirk and Dave
>
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