Re: [icnrg] Adoption of 'Alternative Delta Time Encoding for CCNx Using Compact Floating-Point Arithmetic' (draft-gundogan-icnrg-ccnx-timetlv)
Dirk Kutscher <ietf@dkutscher.net> Fri, 31 July 2020 13:46 UTC
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Subject: Re: [icnrg] Adoption of 'Alternative Delta Time Encoding for CCNx Using Compact Floating-Point Arithmetic' (draft-gundogan-icnrg-ccnx-timetlv)
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Hi everyone, Hitoshi-san, let me ask you this way: what problems do you see with updating RFC8609? Best regards, Dirk On 31 Jul 2020, at 14:06, Cenk Gündoğan wrote: > Hello Hitoshi, > > thank you for your feedback, my comments follow further down inline. > > On Fri, Jul 31 2020 at 11:51 +0200, Hitoshi Asaeda wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> I don't deny the proposal itself but have a concern about the >> intention; "update" RFC8609. >> >> Why does this draft update RFC8609? Why can't we keep RFC8609 as is >> and propose the new type values for this proposal as the addition? >> The time TLV proposed in this document can coexist with RFC8609 if >> you use the new type values. Why does this need to replace the time >> TLV defined in 8609? Is there any errata reported for the time TLV >> defined in 8609? > > the current version of this document describes a few alternatives on > how > to integrate the compressed time TLV into CCNx. One alternative > proposes > to use the Length (L) field of the InterestLifetime TLV to identify > the > included encoding (normal time (L>1) vs. compressed time (L==1) > representation). This would require a change in RFC8609 (Section 3.4.1 > [1]). > > Another alternative might update the message ABNF in Section 2.1 [2] > of > RFC8569 to add a new top-level TLV for the compressed > InterestLifeTime. > > [1] https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc8609#section-3.4.1 > [2] https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc8569#section-2.1 > >> >> My comment is that it is better to discuss this document without an >> intention of updating RFC8609. > > All proposed integration alternatives display advantages and > disadvantages. Getting group feedback on this particular topic is > quite > valuable for the progression of this work. Thanks! We could also > reiterate over the existing integration ideas again (on the list?) in > order to stimulate new ideas and solutions (comparable to a draft > presentation?). > > Best, > Cenk > >> >> Regards, >> >> Hitoshi >> >> >>> On Jul 29, 2020, at 21:39, Dirk Kutscher <ietf@dkutscher.net> wrote: >>> >>> Hi ICNRG, >>> >>> This draft >>> (https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-gundogan-icnrg-ccnx-timetlv/) >>> is intended as an update to RFC 8609 (CCNx Messages in TLV Format). >>> >>> The authors have just submitted an update that addresses previously >>> made technical comments. >>> >>> We believe that it would be appropriate to give change control to >>> the Research Group, so the chairs would like to solicit statements >>> indicating support for adoption or concerns against it from people >>> who are 1) not co-authors and 2) have read the latest version. >>> >>> In case there are questions that you would like to discuss >>> interactively, we should be able to make some time for that on the >>> Monday Interim meeting -- let us know. >>> >>> Thanks and best regards, >>> >>> Chairs >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> icnrg mailing list >>> icnrg@irtf.org >>> https://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/icnrg >> >> _______________________________________________ >> icnrg mailing list >> icnrg@irtf.org >> https://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/icnrg > > -- > Cenk Gündoğan > > Hamburg University of Applied Sciences > Dept. of Computer Science / Internet Technologies Group > Berliner Tor 7, 20099 Hamburg, Germany > Fon: +49 40 42875 - 8426 > Mail: cenk.guendogan@haw-hamburg.de > Web: https://www.inet.haw-hamburg.de/ > _______________________________________________ > icnrg mailing list > icnrg@irtf.org > https://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/icnrg
- [icnrg] Adoption of 'Alternative Delta Time Encod… Dirk Kutscher
- Re: [icnrg] Adoption of 'Alternative Delta Time E… Hitoshi Asaeda
- Re: [icnrg] Adoption of 'Alternative Delta Time E… Cenk Gündoğan
- Re: [icnrg] Adoption of 'Alternative Delta Time E… Dirk Kutscher
- Re: [icnrg] Adoption of 'Alternative Delta Time E… Marc Mosko
- Re: [icnrg] Adoption of 'Alternative Delta Time E… Hitoshi Asaeda
- Re: [icnrg] Adoption of 'Alternative Delta Time E… Hitoshi Asaeda
- Re: [icnrg] Adoption of 'Alternative Delta Time E… Thomas C. Schmidt
- Re: [icnrg] Adoption of 'Alternative Delta Time E… Hitoshi Asaeda
- Re: [icnrg] Adoption of 'Alternative Delta Time E… Dirk Kutscher