Re: [icnrg] I-D Action: draft-oran-icnrg-reflexive-forwarding-03.txt

Dirk Kutscher <ietf@dkutscher.net> Fri, 16 September 2022 12:46 UTC

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Subject: Re: [icnrg] I-D Action: draft-oran-icnrg-reflexive-forwarding-03.txt
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Hello ICNRG,

at the upcoming ACM ICN conference, there will be two papers leveraging Reflexive Forwarding:

* [Delay-Tolerant ICN and its application to LoRa](https://dirk-kutscher.info/publications/lora-icn-dtn/)
* [RESTful ICN](https://dirk-kutscher.info/publications/icn-rest/)

We wanted to take this opportunity to ask the group whether there are any additional comments or thoughts that we could consider for updating the draft: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-oran-icnrg-reflexive-forwarding/

Thanks,
Dirk



On 6 Jun 2022, at 23:42, David R. Oran wrote:

> This version addresses the extensive and valuable comments on the -02 version by Ken Calvert
>
> Forwarded message:
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>> From: internet-drafts@ietf.org
>> To: i-d-announce@ietf.org
>> Subject: I-D Action: draft-oran-icnrg-reflexive-forwarding-03.txt
>> Date: Mon, 06 Jun 2022 14:41:32 -0700
>>
>> A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories.
>>
>>
>>         Title           : Reflexive Forwarding for CCNx and NDN Protocols
>>         Authors         : Dave Oran
>>                           Dirk Kutscher
>>     Filename        : draft-oran-icnrg-reflexive-forwarding-03.txt
>>     Pages           : 43
>>     Date            : 2022-06-06
>>
>> Abstract:
>>    Current Information-Centric Networking protocols such as CCNx and NDN
>>    have a wide range of useful applications in content retrieval and
>>    other scenarios that depend only on a robust two-way exchange in the
>>    form of a request and response (represented by an _Interest-Data
>>    exchange_ in the case of the two protocols noted above).  A number of
>>    important applications however, require placing large amounts of data
>>    in the Interest message, and/or more than one two-way handshake.
>>    While these can be accomplished using independent Interest-Data
>>    exchanges by reversing the roles of consumer and producer, such
>>    approaches can be both clumsy for applications and problematic from a
>>    state management, congestion control, or security standpoint.  This
>>    specification proposes a _Reflexive Forwarding_ extension to the CCNx
>>    and NDN protocol architectures that eliminates the problems inherent
>>    in using independent Interest-Data exchanges for such applications.
>>    It updates RFC8569 and RFC8609.
>>
>>
>> The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is:
>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-oran-icnrg-reflexive-forwarding/
>>
>> There is also an HTML version available at:
>> https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-oran-icnrg-reflexive-forwarding-03.html
>>
>> A diff from the previous version is available at:
>> https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-oran-icnrg-reflexive-forwarding-03
>>
>>
>> Internet-Drafts are also available by rsync at rsync.ietf.org::internet-drafts
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