Re: [icnrg] I-D Action: draft-oran-icnrg-qosarch-05.txt

Dirk Kutscher <ietf@dkutscher.net> Wed, 26 August 2020 09:06 UTC

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Hello ICNRG,

Dave has kindly updated the QoS Architecture Considerations draft, 
responding to earlier comments from Eve during IRSG review.

I was wondering what people think of this revision. Check out the diff 
to see the changes.

If we are generally happy with it, I'd like to pass it back to the IRSG 
on Monday, August 31st.

As a reminder, this is an individual submission, not a RG document as 
most of our RFCs-to-be. Still, any feedback would be appreciated, of 
course.

Thanks,
Dirk





On 24 Aug 2020, at 20:31, internet-drafts@ietf.org wrote:

> A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts 
> directories.
> This draft is a work item of the Information-Centric Networking RG of 
> the IRTF.
>
>         Title           : Considerations in the development of a QoS 
> Architecture for CCNx-like ICN protocols
>         Author          : Dave Oran
> 	Filename        : draft-oran-icnrg-qosarch-05.txt
> 	Pages           : 28
> 	Date            : 2020-08-24
>
> Abstract:
>    This is a position paper.  It documents the author's personal views
>    on how Quality of Service (QoS) capabilities ought to be 
> accommodated
>    in ICN protocols like CCNx or NDN which employ flow-balanced
>    Interest/Data exchanges and hop-by-hop forwarding state as their
>    fundamental machinery.  It argues that such protocols demand a
>    substantially different approach to QoS from that taken in TCP/IP,
>    and proposes specific design patterns to achieve both 
> classification
>    and differentiated QoS treatment on both a flow and aggregate 
> basis.
>    It also considers the effect of caches in addition to memory, CPU 
> and
>    link bandwidth as a resource that should be subject to explicitly
>    unfair resource allocation.  The proposed methods are intended to
>    operate purely at the network layer, providing the primitives 
> needed
>    to achieve both transport and higher layer QoS objectives.  It
>    explicitly excludes any discussion of Quality of Experience (QoE)
>    which can only be assessed and controlled at the application layer 
> or
>    above.
>
>    This document is not a product of the IRTF Information-Centric
>    Networking Research Group (ICNRG) but has been through formal last
>    call and has the support of the participants in the research group
>    for publication as an individual submission.
>
>
> The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is:
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-oran-icnrg-qosarch/
>
> There are also htmlized versions available at:
> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-oran-icnrg-qosarch-05
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-oran-icnrg-qosarch-05
>
> A diff from the previous version is available at:
> https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-oran-icnrg-qosarch-05
>
>
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