Re: [Ideas] WG Review: IDentity Enabled Networks (ideas)

Mike StJohns <> Thu, 05 October 2017 01:50 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Ideas] WG Review: IDentity Enabled Networks (ideas)
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FYI.  IDEAS as an IETF acronym has been taken since about 1989 or so.  It stood for Internet Design Engineering and Analysis Series which was a fairly short lived document series that preceded the Internet Drafts process.  This led to at least one internet routing company noting in its collateral that it implemented IDEA 9.   


FWIW. I agree with John about the obnoxiousness of "" as a mailing list name.  

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> On Oct 4, 2017, at 12:57, John C Klensin <> wrote:
> However, I strongly urge that, if the charter is accepted in
> principle,  you move away from from acronyms that are likely to
> create far more confusion than the desire for demonstrating
> cleverness or cuteness can possibly be worth.  "ideas" itself is
> an example.  It may be an an acronym that was cleverly matched
> to the WG name (or vice versa) but it is also a word that
> implies an entirely different meaning, one that is fairly
> misleading relative to the intended WG's topic and more suited,
> if it is suitable at all for a WG name, for something exploring
> or brainstorming a much broader range of topics.  An
> "" mailing list is particularly obnoxious in that
> regard.