Re: [Ideas] WG Review: IDentity Enabled Networks (ideas)

Stephen Farrell <stephen.farrell@cs.tcd.ie> Sat, 07 October 2017 13:22 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Ideas] WG Review: IDentity Enabled Networks (ideas)
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On 07/10/17 04:38, Padma Pillay-Esnault wrote:
> To address your concerns: no all encompassing system, or humans involved
> here.

I'm sorry but my concerns are just not addressed.

There are humans involved here - they're the ones carrying
the phones and whose presence triggers traffic from other
devices. And while "all encompassing" is maybe a little bit
overstated, anything considering that there's a widespread
need for permanent identifiers (your IDy's) does seem to be
aiming in that direction. If this effort is only aiming at
some niche within the universe of devices that could have
(but hopefully won't have) permanent identifiers known to
networking kit, then you've not identified the niche, and
so do sorta seem to be aiming for an all-encompasing IdP.

S.