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Re: [Ideas] [lisp] FW: Technical plenary: Attacks against the architecture - implications for the Network Mapping System

Dino Farinacci <farinacci@gmail.com> Mon, 31 October 2016 17:27 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Ideas] [lisp] FW: Technical plenary: Attacks against the architecture - implications for the Network Mapping System
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> Hi, one observation and one question. The observation is that anything on the open
> Internet that provides a service can be subject to Denial of Service – and, I am not
> just talking about the LISP mapping system. The question is how is it that we have
> not yet seen DoS attacks take down critical Internet services such as online banking;
> have we just been lucky up to now?

Fred, it has happened. Just hidden to avoid headlines and fear.

Dino

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