[Ideas] Deborah Brungard's Block on charter-ietf-ideas-00-06: (with BLOCK and COMMENT)
Deborah Brungard <db3546@att.com> Thu, 12 October 2017 01:48 UTC
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Subject: [Ideas] Deborah Brungard's Block on charter-ietf-ideas-00-06: (with BLOCK and COMMENT)
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Deborah Brungard has entered the following ballot position for charter-ietf-ideas-00-06: Block When responding, please keep the subject line intact and reply to all email addresses included in the To and CC lines. (Feel free to cut this introductory paragraph, however.) The document, along with other ballot positions, can be found here: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/charter-ietf-ideas/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- BLOCK: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- As other ADs have noted, I don't think this group is ready to be chartered considering the on-going community discussion/concerns raised and the on-going discussion among the proponents on what they want to do. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- COMMENT: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- FWIW - similar to Spencer, I had voted Yes to send the charter to the community for review with the comment that I was concerned the use cases were very diverse and it was not clear if a common approach would be achievable. The community's concerns on basic definitions (id, mapping system, privacy) and the inability for the proponents to clarify with concise definitions, I now don't think this is ready to be a working group. Instead of continuing to boil the ocean on use cases to justify motivation, it would be more helpful to focus on what specifically are the IETF requirements for the mapping system. The dashed list is also boiling the ocean, it needs to be more scoped, e.g. "A security analysis of the complete system" doesn't sound appropriate for a Framework document. The security and operational considerations need to be defined up-front as will scope the work. All of these are listed as "some areas that must be considered" but this is not a research group, it needs to be much more focused for a working group. The charter describes a target of a common infrastructure and <one> protocol. It gives no indication that the work needs to take into consideration the work already done or the expectations of how it will work with the current applications and solutions. And no explanation of why at this time a single solution is viewed as possible or why a single solution is the correct answer for a diversity of use cases.
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