Re: URN Usage
Dale Dougherty <dale@ora.com> Fri, 17 September 1993 12:06 UTC
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From: Dale Dougherty <dale@ora.com>
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Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1993 01:02:20 -0700
In-Reply-To: Richard Wiggins <WIGGINS@msu.edu> "Re: URN Usage" (Sep 17, 12:07am)
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To: Richard Wiggins <WIGGINS@msu.edu>, "William A. Weems" <wweems@oac3.hsc.uth.tmc.edu>, Uniform Resource Identifier discussion <uri@bunyip.com>
Subject: Re: URN Usage
On Sep 17, 12:07am, Richard Wiggins wrote: } Subject: Re: URN Usage > >At the Columbus IETF I recall Cliff Lynch pointing out that publishers >assign different ISBNs to a title that comes out in paper and cloth -- >same "intellectual content" but different format. Now that may just be >to provide separate handles for ordering -- but it also makes sense when >you think about the text and diagrams being smaller, durability, etc. > >Maybe the answer is that Dr. Weems gets to call the GIF and the JPEG >the same URN if he produced them, but anyone doing a transformation >outside his control must use a distinct URN? > I thought I might add here that one reason that hard cover and softcover books have different ISBNs is that they are often published by different publishers. In other words, one publisher who owns an intellectual property can sell the specific rights such as to create paperback books to another publisher. It is not so much a format issue as a rights issue -- one publisher may be able to exploit those rights (mass market paperbacks) better than another. When we have published a book in hard and soft cover, they have different ISBNs; and a set comprised of two books, which have their own ISBNs, also has its own ISBN. In these cases, this is largely an ordering issue -- allowing bookstores to identify unique products. Rob Raisch and I talked over some of these issues when he was doing work on his sample URN implementation. I think we reached the conclusion that a URN is essentially a product identifier, which represents the right to use an intellectual property and distribute it in some tangible form. Content is not the decisive factor. The rights to that content are represented by a product. I could conceivably license Postscript distribution rights for a particular online book while retaining all other rights to create products from the same property in forms other than PostScript. In brief, the URN should identify unique products, not intellectual properties. Many different products are possible from the same intellectual property and I'm not sure it is necessary to track that relation other than through contracts. Dale -- Dale Dougherty (dale@ora.com) Publisher, Global Network Navigator, O'Reilly & Associates, Inc. 103A Morris Street, Sebastopol, California 95472 (707) 829-3762 (home office); 1-800-998-9938
- Re: URN Usage Richard Wiggins
- Re: URN Usage Rob Raisch, The Internet Company
- Re: URN Usage Dale Dougherty
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