Re: [Idna-update] [I18nrp] Last Call: <draft-faltstrom-unicode11-05.txt> (IDNA2008 and Unicode 11.0.0) to Informational RFC

Nico Williams <> Fri, 07 December 2018 16:45 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Idna-update] [I18nrp] Last Call: <draft-faltstrom-unicode11-05.txt> (IDNA2008 and Unicode 11.0.0) to Informational RFC
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On Fri, Dec 07, 2018 at 12:52:20AM -0800, Asmus Freytag (c) wrote:
> On 12/6/2018 10:50 PM, Nico Williams wrote:
> >On Fri, Dec 07, 2018 at 01:45:02AM -0500, Vint Cerf wrote:
> >>>The ability to type in domainnames you see in ads is not that
> >>>interesting for the obvious reason that advertisers would not
> >>>choose to use domainnames that their targets cannot type in!
> >>VGC: I am not so sure advertisers are that smart...
> >
> >I am quite certain that they are, or if not, will be.  They spend
> >lots of money, and they hate to spend it badly.  They even spend lots
> >of money on how to spend lots more money well.
> It may not be advertisers that use such 'broken' labels. All sorts of
> mischief can be created with stuff that your system won't let you type
> (even if you are a native user on a "native" system).

Anyone who wants their target audience to be able to type in a label
will pick labels wisely.

Anyone who does not care whether their target audience is able to type
in a label will be free to construct more interesting labels.

I see nothing wrong with that.

Of course, we weren't discussing malicious use of confusables.  That's
another story.