Re: [Idna-update] [Ext] FWD: Expiration impending: <draft-klensin-idna-rfc5891bis-01.txt>
Andrew Sullivan <ajs@anvilwalrusden.com> Mon, 05 March 2018 20:03 UTC
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Subject: Re: [Idna-update] [Ext] FWD: Expiration impending:
<draft-klensin-idna-rfc5891bis-01.txt>
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Does the IAB know that, and have an opinion? A -- Please excuse my clumbsy thums ---------- On March 5, 2018 14:38:48 Patrik Fältström <paf@frobbit.se> wrote: > On 5 Mar 2018, at 20:15, Kim Davies wrote: > >> Quoting John C Klensin on Monday March 05, 2018: >> >>> Given that there has been no discussion of this draft in the >>> last few months, that there seems to be no interest in it in the >>> IESG (although we have not pressed hard on it specifically), and >>> that the possibly-complementary >>> draft-freytag-troublesome-characters draft has already expired, >>> I'm just going to let this expire unless someone gives me a good >>> reason why not in the next few minutes (if a revision is not >>> posted today, the draft will expire because, without special >>> permission, nothing can be posted between tomorrow and the start >>> of IETF). >>> >>> I hope no one interprets this as complete lack of interest in >>> pursuing IDN issues, or even clarification of the IDNA >>> standards, in the IETF. >> >> >> With the expiry of these efforts, I am concerned more generally that the >> standing IAB guidance in >> https://www.iab.org/documents/correspondence-reports-documents/2015-2/iab-statement-on-identifiers-and-unicode-7-0-0/ >> has kept the pre-computed IDNA tables published at IANA downgraded to >> Unicode 6.3.0 for a number of years. It seems appropriate to revisit >> publishing tables against contemporary Unicode editions if there is no >> active work on publishing clarifying RFCs in this regard. > > Speaking as the by IAB appointed expert that do approve new tables, I > simply can not unless there are some guidance and agreement in the IETF on > how to move forward. > > The few people involved that spend time on these issues makes it hard to > draw conclusions on "the right path forward". This given the situation we > are in, as described by John. > > Patrik > > > > ---------- > _______________________________________________ > IDNA-UPDATE mailing list > IDNA-UPDATE@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/idna-update >
- [Idna-update] FWD: Expiration impending: <draft-k… John C Klensin
- Re: [Idna-update] [Ext] FWD: Expiration impending… Kim Davies
- Re: [Idna-update] [Ext] FWD: Expiration impending… Patrik Fältström
- Re: [Idna-update] [Ext] FWD: Expiration impending… Andrew Sullivan
- Re: [Idna-update] [Ext] FWD: Expiration impending… Patrik Fältström
- Re: [Idna-update] [Ext] FWD: Expiration impending… Patrik Fältström
- Re: [Idna-update] [Ext] FWD: Expiration impending… John R. Levine
- Re: [Idna-update] [Ext] FWD: Expiration impending… Suzanne Woolf
- Re: [Idna-update] [Ext] FWD: Expiration impending… Andrew Sullivan
- Re: [Idna-update] [Ext] FWD: Expiration impending… Asmus Freytag
- Re: [Idna-update] FWD: Expiration impending: <dra… Francisco Arias
- Re: [Idna-update] [Ext] FWD: Expiration impending… John C Klensin
- Re: [Idna-update] [Ext] FWD: Expiration impending… Asmus Freytag
- Re: [Idna-update] [Ext] FWD: Expiration impending… Andrew Sullivan
- Re: [Idna-update] [Ext] FWD: Expiration impending… Patrik Fältström
- Re: [Idna-update] [Ext] FWD: Expiration impending… Asmus Freytag
- Re: [Idna-update] [Ext] FWD: Expiration impending… Patrik Fältström
- Re: [Idna-update] Expiration impending: <draft-kl… Patrik Fältström
- Re: [Idna-update] Expiration impending: <draft-kl… John C Klensin
- Re: [Idna-update] Expiration impending: <draft-kl… Francisco Arias
- Re: [Idna-update] Expiration impending: <draft-kl… Patrik Fältström
- Re: [Idna-update] Expiration impending: <draft-kl… John C Klensin
- Re: [Idna-update] Expiration impending: <draft-kl… Andrew Sullivan
- Re: [Idna-update] Expiration impending: <draft-kl… John C Klensin
- Re: [Idna-update] Expiration impending: <draft-kl… Andrew Sullivan
- Re: [Idna-update] Expiration impending: <draft-kl… Asmus Freytag
- Re: [Idna-update] Expiration impending: <draft-kl… Asmus Freytag
- [Idna-update] IDNA and combining sequences (was: … John C Klensin
- Re: [Idna-update] Expiration impending: <draft-kl… John C Klensin
- Re: [Idna-update] IDNA and combining sequences (w… Patrik Fältström
- Re: [Idna-update] IDNA and combining sequences (w… John C Klensin
- Re: [Idna-update] IDNA and combining sequences (w… Mark Davis ☕️
- Re: [Idna-update] IDNA and combining sequences Asmus Freytag (c)
- Re: [Idna-update] IDNA and combining sequences (w… John Levine
- Re: [Idna-update] IDNA and combining sequences Asmus Freytag (c)
- Re: [Idna-update] Expiration impending: <draft-kl… Asmus Freytag
- Re: [Idna-update] IDNA and combining sequences Patrik Fältström
- Re: [Idna-update] IDNA and combining sequences John C Klensin
- Re: [Idna-update] IDNA and combining sequences (w… John C Klensin
- Re: [Idna-update] IDNA and combining sequences (w… John R Levine
- Re: [Idna-update] IDNA and combining sequences (w… Asmus Freytag
- Re: [Idna-update] IDNA and combining sequences (w… John Levine
- Re: [Idna-update] IDNA and combining sequences (w… Asmus Freytag (c)
- Re: [Idna-update] Expiration impending: <draft-kl… John C Klensin
- Re: [Idna-update] IDNA and combining sequences (w… John Levine
- Re: [Idna-update] IDNA and combining sequences (w… Asmus Freytag (c)
- Re: [Idna-update] IDNA and combining sequences (w… John R Levine