Re: [Idna-update] Updating the review procedure in RFC 5892 for new Unicode versions
John C Klensin <john-ietf@jck.com> Mon, 05 August 2019 14:05 UTC
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Subject: Re: [Idna-update] Updating the review procedure in RFC 5892 for new Unicode versions
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--On Monday, August 5, 2019 12:39 +0200 Jaap Akkerhuis <jaap@NLnetLabs.nl> wrote: > I have reviewed this document and do support the piblication. I > specifically like that it explains the confusion about the > non-authoritaive IANA IDNA tables. Thanks. It started becoming obvious to Patrik and myself when the complaints about not updating the tables stopping work started becoming loud over a year ago, more clear when the IAB issued the statement that I interpreted as "just get on with it", and completely obvious when in-depth discussions of draft-faltstrom-unicode11 started, that a clarification was overdue. If this clarification does not end that confusion, the IETF should consider taking that IANA registry and tables down entirely, perhaps replacing them with entries in some version control system that are "owned" by the designated expert who creates them. But let's hope that this will suffice. thanks again, john
- [Idna-update] Updating the review procedure in RF… John C Klensin
- Re: [Idna-update] Updating the review procedure i… Jaap Akkerhuis
- Re: [Idna-update] Updating the review procedure i… John C Klensin