Re: [Idnet] Intelligence-Defined Network Architecture and Call for Interests
Jérôme François <jerome.francois@inria.fr> Fri, 31 March 2017 04:57 UTC
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Subject: Re: [Idnet] Intelligence-Defined Network Architecture and Call for Interests
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Hi, Data is primordial but sharing them is very difficult (I'm not an operator) due to privacy but also legislative issues. Here are few comments: 1) on anonymization: this far from being simple and I do not believe that anybody can guarentee that nothing will be leaked out as sensitive data (and at the end this will the responsability of the operator who have shared the data). -> That is why sharing but not in public manner (with a NDA) is still the most viable solution (in my opinion) 2) charaterizing the data we would like to access is clearly a first step (even if many of us like to have raw data) 3) Another possibility is to run the algorithms you want to test on a remote platform without accessing the data and get back the results (also here there might be some safguards to avoid that program tries to extract sensitive data as results !) jerome Le 31/03/2017 à 06:15, Laurent Ciavaglia a écrit : > Also CAIDA has multiple measurement tools to collect data. > Some IETFers are specialists of these tools and report findings on > data collected via these tools. > > Might be something to look at. > > Also, and with this I'm finished for today, documenting the > characteristics of the requested data set(s) might help. > > BR, Laurent. > > On 31/03/2017 06:12, Laurent Ciavaglia wrote: >> Hello, >> >> A couple of suggestions: >> -Why not raise this point / request in various WGs (e.g. in the >> OPS Area) and RGs (e.g. MAPRG, NMRG). >> -Why not work with the IETF meeting NOC to collect data sets? >> >> BR, Laurent. >> >> On 31/03/2017 05:07, Pedro Martinez-Julia wrote: >>> Hi all, >>> >>> That's it and I insist that, if anybody in the mailing list is bound to >>> an operator or a similar organization that manages huge amounts of data, >>> just the data we need, please try to provide it. We will be able to help >>> you to build some anonymization solution, if needed. Thank you. >>> >>> Regards, >>> Pedro >>> >> >> -- >> >> Laurent Ciavaglia >> >> Nokia, Bell Labs >> >> >> >> +33 160 402 636 >> >> route de Villejust - Nozay, France >> >> linkedin.com/in/laurent.ciavaglia >> > > -- > > Laurent Ciavaglia > > Nokia, Bell Labs > > > > +33 160 402 636 > > route de Villejust - Nozay, France > > linkedin.com/in/laurent.ciavaglia > > > > _______________________________________________ > IDNET mailing list > IDNET@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/idnet
- Re: [Idnet] Intelligence-Defined Network Architec… Sheng Jiang
- [Idnet] Intelligence-Defined Network Architecture… Sheng Jiang
- Re: [Idnet] Intelligence-Defined Network Architec… David Meyer
- Re: [Idnet] Intelligence-Defined Network Architec… Shamik Mishra
- Re: [Idnet] Intelligence-Defined Network Architec… Oscar Mauricio Caicedo Rendon
- Re: [Idnet] Intelligence-Defined Network Architec… David Meyer
- Re: [Idnet] Intelligence-Defined Network Architec… David Meyer
- Re: [Idnet] Intelligence-Defined Network Architec… Brian Njenga
- Re: [Idnet] Intelligence-Defined Network Architec… David Meyer
- Re: [Idnet] Intelligence-Defined Network Architec… Pedro Martinez-Julia
- Re: [Idnet] Intelligence-Defined Network Architec… Brian Njenga
- Re: [Idnet] Intelligence-Defined Network Architec… Jérôme François
- Re: [Idnet] Intelligence-Defined Network Architec… David Meyer
- Re: [Idnet] Intelligence-Defined Network Architec… Pedro Martinez-Julia
- Re: [Idnet] Intelligence-Defined Network Architec… David Meyer
- Re: [Idnet] Intelligence-Defined Network Architec… Brian Njenga
- Re: [Idnet] Intelligence-Defined Network Architec… Jérôme François
- Re: [Idnet] Intelligence-Defined Network Architec… 김민석
- [Idnet] 答复: Intelligence-Defined Network Architec… dingxiaojian (A)
- Re: [Idnet] Intelligence-Defined Network Architec… David Meyer
- Re: [Idnet] Intelligence-Defined Network Architec… David Meyer
- Re: [Idnet] Intelligence-Defined Network Architec… Alex Galis
- Re: [Idnet] Intelligence-Defined Network Architec… Chris Hammerschmidt
- Re: [Idnet] Intelligence-Defined Network Architec… David Meyer
- Re: [Idnet] Intelligence-Defined Network Architec… Pedro Martinez-Julia
- Re: [Idnet] Intelligence-Defined Network Architec… 김민석
- Re: [Idnet] Intelligence-Defined Network Architec… David Meyer
- Re: [Idnet] Intelligence-Defined Network Architec… 김민석
- Re: [Idnet] Intelligence-Defined Network Architec… David Meyer
- Re: [Idnet] Intelligence-Defined Network Architec… Sheng Jiang
- Re: [Idnet] Intelligence-Defined Network Architec… YuLing Chen (yulingch)
- Re: [Idnet] Intelligence-Defined Network Architec… Michele Zorzi
- Re: [Idnet] Intelligence-Defined Network Architec… Manav Bhatia
- Re: [Idnet] Intelligence-Defined Network Architec… Sheng Jiang
- Re: [Idnet] Intelligence-Defined Network Architec… Wei Jiang
- Re: [Idnet] Intelligence-Defined Network Architec… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [Idnet] Intelligence-Defined Network Architec… Aydin Ulas
- Re: [Idnet] Intelligence-Defined Network Architec… dingxiaojian (A)
- Re: [Idnet] Intelligence-Defined Network Architec… Pedro Martinez-Julia
- Re: [Idnet] Intelligence-Defined Network Architec… Laurent Ciavaglia
- Re: [Idnet] Intelligence-Defined Network Architec… Laurent Ciavaglia
- Re: [Idnet] Intelligence-Defined Network Architec… Jérôme François
- Re: [Idnet] Intelligence-Defined Network Architec… Lori Jakab
- Re: [Idnet] Intelligence-Defined Network Architec… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [Idnet] Intelligence-Defined Network Architec… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [Idnet] Intelligence-Defined Network Architec… Oscar Mauricio Caicedo Rendon
- Re: [Idnet] Intelligence-Defined Network Architec… Pedro Martinez-Julia
- Re: [Idnet] Intelligence-Defined Network Architec… David Meyer
- Re: [Idnet] Intelligence-Defined Network Architec… Juraj Giertl
- Re: [Idnet] Intelligence-Defined Network Architec… Pedro Martinez-Julia