Re: [Idnet] IDN dedicated session call for case
Özgü Alay <ozgu@simula.no> Tue, 08 August 2017 06:01 UTC
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From: Özgü Alay <ozgu@simula.no>
Date: Tue, 08 Aug 2017 08:01:32 +0200
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To: Albert Cabellos <albert.cabellos@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [Idnet] IDN dedicated session call for case
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Dear Albert, We are interested in this use case and will support the activities in this area. Best Regards, Özgü On 8 August 2017 at 06:52, Albert Cabellos <albert.cabellos@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi all > > Here´s another use-case: > > Use case N+2: QoE > Description: Collect low-level metrics (SNR, latency, jitter, > losses, etc) and measure QoE. Then use ML to understand what is the > relation between satisfactory QoE and the low-level metrics. As an example > learn that when delay>N then QoE is degraded, but when M<delay<N then QoE > is satisfactory for the customers (please note that QoE cannot be measured > directly over your network). This is useful to understand how the network > must be operated to provide satisfactory QoE. > Process: 1. Low-level data collection and QoE measurement ; 2. > Training Model (input low-level metrics, output QoE); 3. Real-time data > capture and input; 4. Predict QoE; 5. Operate network to meet target QoE > requirement, go to 3. > Data Format: Time : [Start, End, Unit, Number of Value, > Sampling Period] > Position: [Device ID, Port ID] > Direction: IN / OUT > Low-level metric : SNR, Delay, Jitter, > queue-size, etc > > Message : Request: ask for the data > Reply: Data > Notice: For notification or others > Policy: Control policy > > Kind regards > > Albert > > On Wed, Aug 2, 2017 at 7:12 PM, yanshen <yanshen@huawei.com> wrote: > >> Dear all, >> >> Since we plan to organize a dedicated session in NMRG, IETF100, for >> applying AI into network management (NM), I’d try to list some Use Cases >> and propose a roadmap and ToC before Nov. >> >> These might be rough. You are welcome to refine them and propose your >> focused use cases or ideas. >> >> Use case 1: Traffic Prediction >> Description: Collect the history traffic data and external data >> which may influence the traffic. Predict the traffic in short/long/specific >> term. Avoid the congestion or risk in previously. >> Process: 1. Data collection (e.g. traffic sample of >> physical/logical port ); 2. Training Model; 3. Real-time data capture and >> input; 4. Predication output; 5. Fix error and go back to 3. >> Data Format: Time : [Start, End, Unit, Number of Value, >> Sampling Period] >> Position: [Device ID, Port ID] >> Direction: IN / OUT >> Route : [R1, R2, ..., RN] (might be >> useful for some scenarios) >> Service : [Service ID, Priority, ...] >> (Not clear how to use it but seems useful) >> Traffic: [T0, T1, T2, ..., TN] >> Message : Request: ask for the data >> Reply: Data >> Notice: For notification or others >> Policy: Control policy >> >> Use case 2: QoS Management >> Description: Use multiple paths to distribute the traffic flows. >> Adjust the percentages. Avoid congestion and ensure QoS. >> Process: 1. Data capture (e.g. traffic sample of physical/logical >> port ); 2. Training Model; 3. Real-time data capture and input; 4. Output >> percentages; 5. Fix error and go back to 3. >> Data Format: Time : [Timestamp, Value type (Delay/Packet >> Loss/...), Unit, Number of Value, Sampling Period] >> Position: [Link ID, Device ID] >> Value: [V0, V1, V2, ..., VN] >> Message : Request: ask for the data >> Reply: Data >> Notice: For notification or others >> Policy: Control policy >> >> Use case N: Waiting for your Ideas >> >> Also I suggest a roadmap before Nov if possible. >> >> ### Roadmap ### >> Aug. : Collecting the use cases (related with NM). Rough thoughts and >> requirements >> Sep. : Refining the cases and abstract the common elements >> Oct. : Deeply analysis. Especially on Data Format, control flow, or other >> key points >> Nov.: F2F discussions on IETF100 >> ### Roadmap End ### >> >> A rough ToC is listed in following. We may take it as a scope before Nov. >> Hope that the content could become the draft of draft. >> >> ###Table of Content### >> 1. Gap and Requirement Analysis >> 1.1 Network Management requirement >> 1.2 TBD >> 2. Use Cases >> 2.1 Traffic Prediction >> 2.2 QoS Management >> 3.3 TBD >> 3. Data Focus >> 3.1 Data attribute >> 3.2 Data format >> 3.3 TBD >> 4. Aims >> 4.1 Benchmarking Framework >> 4.2 TBD >> ###ToC End### >> >> >> Yansen >> >> _______________________________________________ >> IDNET mailing list >> IDNET@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/idnet >> > > > _______________________________________________ > IDNET mailing list > IDNET@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/idnet > >
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