Re: [Idnet] IETF99 for applying AI/ML into network management: Follow-up
yanshen <yanshen@huawei.com> Mon, 24 July 2017 08:44 UTC
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Subject: Re: [Idnet] IETF99 for applying AI/ML into network management: Follow-up
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Dear Pedro, > -----Original Message----- > From: IDNET [mailto:idnet-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Pedro Martinez-Julia > Sent: Friday, July 21, 2017 5:18 PM > To: yanshen <yanshen@huawei.com> > Cc: idnet@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [Idnet] IETF99 for applying AI/ML into network management: > Follow-up > > Dear Yanshen, > > Please find my reply below. > > On Fri, Jul 21, 2017 at 08:52:33AM +0000, yanshen wrote: > > Dear Pedro, > > > > Thanks for your hints. Please find some hints from my side. > > > > I am not sure whether you means that there should be an "interface" or > > an "entity" between the other source data and control loop? > > I'm sorry, I mean that, by definition, a "closed control loop" intends to maintain a > particular variable within some defined values by reading it and enforcing the > necessary actions to affect it. Any external data cannot be considered as such > variable so they cannot be part of the closed control loop. However, it can be > used to help controlling other variables, but it must be clearly defined how the > external data is integrated and derived into the changes to the other variable. > Indeed. So that there should be a little complement in the loops. [see the attachment] For compatible, there may be an interface or device to "receive" the external data? Regards, Yansen > > BTW, have you ever obtain some achievement about such point that can > > be shared? > > My results are trivial and do not shed any light to this issue and I do not try to fit > external data into the closed control loop, I just use it to complement the control > of the "load" variable. > > > I think that since NMRG may be a probably choice, it is better to > > explore via this thread. > > So let's go that way. > > > Thanks for reading. > > > > Regards, > > > > Yansen > > Regards, > Pedro > > -- > Pedro Martinez-Julia > Network Science and Convergence Device Technology Laboratory Network > System Research Institute National Institute of Information and Communications > Technology (NICT) 4-2-1, Nukui-Kitamachi, Koganei, Tokyo 184-8795, Japan > Email: pedro@nict.go.jp > --------------------------------------------------------- > *** Entia non sunt multiplicanda praeter necessitatem *** > > _______________________________________________ > IDNET mailing list > IDNET@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/idnet
- [Idnet] IETF99 for applying AI/ML into network ma… Jérôme François
- Re: [Idnet] IETF99 for applying AI/ML into networ… Pedro Martinez-Julia
- Re: [Idnet] IETF99 for applying AI/ML into networ… yanshen
- Re: [Idnet] IETF99 for applying AI/ML into networ… yanshen
- Re: [Idnet] IETF99 for applying AI/ML into networ… Pedro Martinez-Julia
- Re: [Idnet] IETF99 for applying AI/ML into networ… yanshen
- Re: [Idnet] IETF99 for applying AI/ML into networ… Pedro Martinez-Julia
- Re: [Idnet] IETF99 for applying AI/ML into networ… yanshen
- Re: [Idnet] IETF99 for applying AI/ML into networ… Jérôme François
- Re: [Idnet] IETF99 for applying AI/ML into networ… Jérôme François
- Re: [Idnet] IETF99 for applying AI/ML into networ… Pedro Martinez-Julia
- Re: [Idnet] IETF99 for applying AI/ML into networ… Pedro Martinez-Julia
- Re: [Idnet] IETF99 for applying AI/ML into networ… Jérôme François
- Re: [Idnet] IETF99 for applying AI/ML into networ… Sheng Jiang
- Re: [Idnet] IETF99 for applying AI/ML into networ… Jérôme François
- Re: [Idnet] IETF99 for applying AI/ML into networ… yanshen
- Re: [Idnet] IETF99 for applying AI/ML into networ… yanshen
- Re: [Idnet] IETF99 for applying AI/ML into networ… Pedro Martinez-Julia
- Re: [Idnet] IETF99 for applying AI/ML into networ… Simone Ferlin
- Re: [Idnet] IETF99 for applying AI/ML into networ… Sheng Jiang
- Re: [Idnet] IETF99 for applying AI/ML into networ… Jérôme François
- Re: [Idnet] IETF99 for applying AI/ML into networ… yanshen