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Re: [Idnet] IETF99 for applying AI/ML into network management: Follow-up

yanshen <yanshen@huawei.com> Mon, 24 July 2017 08:44 UTC

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From: yanshen <yanshen@huawei.com>
To: Pedro Martinez-Julia <pedro@nict.go.jp>
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Subject: Re: [Idnet] IETF99 for applying AI/ML into network management: Follow-up
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Dear Pedro, 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: IDNET [mailto:idnet-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Pedro Martinez-Julia
> Sent: Friday, July 21, 2017 5:18 PM
> To: yanshen <yanshen@huawei.com>
> Cc: idnet@ietf.org
> Subject: Re: [Idnet] IETF99 for applying AI/ML into network management:
> Follow-up
> 
> Dear Yanshen,
> 
> Please find my reply below.
> 
> On Fri, Jul 21, 2017 at 08:52:33AM +0000, yanshen wrote:
> > Dear Pedro,
> >
> > Thanks for your hints. Please find some hints from my side.
> >
> > I am not sure whether you means that there should be an "interface" or
> > an "entity" between the other source data and control loop?
> 
> I'm sorry, I mean that, by definition, a "closed control loop" intends to maintain a
> particular variable within some defined values by reading it and enforcing the
> necessary actions to affect it. Any external data cannot be considered as such
> variable so they cannot be part of the closed control loop. However, it can be
> used to help controlling other variables, but it must be clearly defined how the
> external data is integrated and derived into the changes to the other variable.
> 

Indeed. So that there should be a little complement in the loops. [see the attachment]

For compatible, there may be an interface or device to "receive" the external data? 

Regards, 

Yansen


> > BTW, have you ever obtain some achievement about such point that can
> > be shared?
> 
> My results are trivial and do not shed any light to this issue and I do not try to fit
> external data into the closed control loop, I just use it to complement the control
> of the "load" variable.
> 
> > I think that since NMRG may be a probably choice, it is better to
> > explore via this thread.
> 
> So let's go that way.
> 
> > Thanks for reading.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Yansen
> 
> Regards,
> Pedro
> 
> --
> Pedro Martinez-Julia
> Network Science and Convergence Device Technology Laboratory Network
> System Research Institute National Institute of Information and Communications
> Technology (NICT) 4-2-1, Nukui-Kitamachi, Koganei, Tokyo 184-8795, Japan
> Email: pedro@nict.go.jp
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