Re: [Idr] IETF LC for IDR-ish document <draft-ietf-grow-bgp-reject-05.txt> (Default EBGP Route Propagation Behavior Without Policies) to Proposed Standard

Jared Mauch <jared@puck.nether.net> Thu, 20 April 2017 13:34 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Idr] IETF LC for IDR-ish document <draft-ietf-grow-bgp-reject-05.txt> (Default EBGP Route Propagation Behavior Without Policies) to Proposed Standard
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> On Apr 19, 2017, at 6:16 PM, Keyur Patel <keyur@arrcus.com> wrote:
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> And that would be good enough if that would allow exemptions of DC networks and any other networks that may need exemption.

I’m not sure what makes DC networks unique to be exempt from adding a one line policy to their configuration, this is a very low bar similar to configuring a hostname or AAA authentication that a DC network would have come from their ZTP/automation.

I find this incredibly worrisome thinking, next we will have an exemption for government run networks to what end?

- Jared