Re: [Idr] WGLC on draft-ietf-idr-as-private-reservation-00

[Geoff Huston <[e-mail]>]

On 30/11/2012, at 5:29 AM, Jared Mauch <[e-mail]> wrote:

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> On Nov 29, 2012, at 1:21 PM, Geoff Huston wrote:
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>> On 30/11/2012, at 3:49 AM, Warren Kumari <[e-mail]> wrote:
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>>> On Nov 28, 2012, at 10:07 PM, Geoff Huston <[e-mail]> wrote:
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>>>> On 29/11/2012, at 8:26 AM, John Scudder <[e-mail]> wrote:
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>>>>> Folks,
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>>>>> We have received a request for a working group last call on draft-ietf-idr-as-private-reservation-00. A URL for the draft is http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-idr-as-private-reservation-00
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>>>>> Please send comments to the list by December 14. [*]
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>>>> I am opposed to this draft - increasing the size of a unordered non-unique identifier space is counter-productive.
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>>> … and I support it -- some folk have a need for more than 1023 "private" ASNs and *really really* don't want to do the "just reuse the same one and then use something like the 'allows-in' and similar hacks".
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>>> Yes, going to an RIR and requesting a few thousand global ASes is possible, but to me seems inelegant.
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>> ???
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> I think the issue he raises here is that to provide uniqueness, one could ask for real ASNs, but folks may not or be unable to do this.  If they are not used on the big-I Internet, why should they come from that pool.
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I understand that this is a restatement of Warren's point, but you raise an issue with the registries and the Internet.

I can recall the origination of the registry system - it was not only about the big-I Internet - it was about the allocation of unique code points to folk who needed to rely upon uniqueness.

I'd like to believe that the registry system still works in this way, and should continue to work in this way.

If you need uniqueness then the are registered in the global uniqueness registry - then the context of use is of no importance - you can use them in the big-I Internet - you can use them in Geoff's playland or anywhere else for that matter - they are still unique.

Creating more private use space does not address the need for uniqueness in ASN code points in my view.

Geoff