Re: [Idr] Alissa Cooper's No Objection on draft-ietf-idr-as-migration-03: (with COMMENT)
"Susan Hares" <shares@ndzh.com> Wed, 18 February 2015 21:52 UTC
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Subject: Re: [Idr] Alissa Cooper's No Objection on draft-ietf-idr-as-migration-03: (with COMMENT)
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Alissa: Could you unpack your concerns a bit more on section 1 and this section? Why is this not just a pragmatic comment on a reality of business that can happen? This specification is documenting what exists in real networks with real costs. What causes you to hold your nose? Sue -------- The text: below: "This could result in a loss of revenue if the ISP is billing based on measured utilization of traffic sent to/from entities attached to its network." Considering loss of revenue in and of itself to be a security issue is a slippery slope that we should probably not start to descend. I held my nose for the revenue-related text in Section 1, but here in Section 9 it seems particularly ill-advised. ======== Why is this not just a comment on a reality of business that can happen? What causes you to hold your nose? These -----Original Message----- From: Alissa Cooper [mailto:alissa@cooperw.in] Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2015 3:37 PM To: The IESG Cc: morrowc@ops-netman.net; idr@ietf.org; idr-chairs@ietf.org; draft-ietf-idr-as-migration.all@ietf.org Subject: Alissa Cooper's No Objection on draft-ietf-idr-as-migration-03: (with COMMENT) Alissa Cooper has entered the following ballot position for draft-ietf-idr-as-migration-03: No Objection When responding, please keep the subject line intact and reply to all email addresses included in the To and CC lines. (Feel free to cut this introductory paragraph, however.) Please refer to http://www.ietf.org/iesg/statement/discuss-criteria.html for more information about IESG DISCUSS and COMMENT positions. The document, along with other ballot positions, can be found here: http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-idr-as-migration/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- COMMENT: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Section 9: "This could result in a loss of revenue if the ISP is billing based on measured utilization of traffic sent to/from entities attached to its network." Considering loss of revenue in and of itself to be a security issue is a slippery slope that we should probably not start to descend. I held my nose for the revenue-related text in Section 1, but here in Section 9 it seems particularly ill-advised.
- Re: [Idr] Alissa Cooper's No Objection on draft-i… Susan Hares
- [Idr] Alissa Cooper's No Objection on draft-ietf-… Alissa Cooper
- Re: [Idr] Alissa Cooper's No Objection on draft-i… Alissa Cooper
- Re: [Idr] Alissa Cooper's No Objection on draft-i… Susan Hares
- Re: [Idr] Alissa Cooper's No Objection on draft-i… George, Wes
- Re: [Idr] Alissa Cooper's No Objection on draft-i… Randy Bush
- Re: [Idr] Alissa Cooper's No Objection on draft-i… Nick Hilliard
- Re: [Idr] Alissa Cooper's No Objection on draft-i… Randy Bush
- Re: [Idr] Alissa Cooper's No Objection on draft-i… Alissa Cooper
- Re: [Idr] Alissa Cooper's No Objection on draft-i… Neil J. McRae