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Re: [Idr] 2 Week WG Adoption call for draft-ymbk-idr-rs-bfd-00 (3/2/2015 to 3/16/2015)

"Neil J. McRae" <neil@domino.org> Wed, 18 March 2015 19:39 UTC

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From: "Neil J. McRae" <neil@domino.org>
To: Thomas King <thomas.king@de-cix.net>
Thread-Topic: [Idr] 2 Week WG Adoption call for draft-ymbk-idr-rs-bfd-00 (3/2/2015 to 3/16/2015)
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Subject: Re: [Idr] 2 Week WG Adoption call for draft-ymbk-idr-rs-bfd-00 (3/2/2015 to 3/16/2015)
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> On 18 Mar 2015, at 18:54, Thomas King <thomas.king@de-cix.net> wrote:
> 
> Hi Thomas
> 
>> On 16 Mar 2015, at 09:56, Thomas Mangin <thomas.mangin@exa-networks.co.uk> wrote:
>> 
>> Many networks will not use Route Servers due to this problem which did
>> hit quite a few operators over the years on large internet exchanges.
>> This is a reason why some large operators refuse to peer with smaller
>> ones via RS.
> 
> I think this is not correct anymore:
> http://net.t-labs.tu-berlin.de/~prichter/imc238-richterA.pdf
> 
> Nearly all customers at DE-CIX Frankfurt use the route servers.
> 
> I think many things happened in the past to make sure route servers run stable and reliable. With our proposal we are pushing hard in this direction. Especially, for large IXPs such as DE-CIX, AMS-IX, Linx or Netnod setting up bilateral peerings does not scale anymore (who wants to maintain 500+ BGP sessions?). Route servers are the only solution to keep the setup process manageable (from my point of view).
> 


Thomas K - sorry but it is simple to manage, scales perfectly well and much more preferable. (And probably off topic here) 

Regards,
Neil 



> Best regards,
> Thomas
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