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Hello Sue

Thank you for your help!

Based on Shepherd Review on -12, we have made the following modifications i=
n -13 revision:


(1)    Technical issues from -10 has been resolved, specifically:
"Issue-4:  Missing Manageability section

Please add an section to indicate how operators may manage set or monitor
the PATH MTU via existing Yang modules or BGP-LS support.

If these do not exist, suggest whether a yang module or BGP-LS support woul=
d be useful."

We have added a section of Manageability Considerations:
"Currently, there is no standardized YANG data model that explicitly expose=
s the Path MTU value carried in the BGP SR Policy Path MTU Sub-TLV to netwo=
rk management systems or operators. Similarly, while BGP-LS can distribute =
link-level MTU information (as defined in [I-D.ietf-idr-bgp-ls-link-mtu]), =
it does not natively convey end-to-end Path MTU values associated with spec=
ific SR Policies.

Standardized manageability support would significantly improve operational =
visibility and automation. Therefore, the authors recommend a YANG Module E=
xtension: Extend the YANG data model for SR Policies (e.g., ietf-sr-policy =
or vendor-specific models) to include a read-only leaf for path-mtu, reflec=
ting the value received via BGP or configured locally. This would enable NE=
TCONF/RESTCONF-based retrieval and integration with network assurance syste=
ms."


Other issues from -10 have already been solved in the past revisions.

(2)  the name of the IANA registry has been modified as "SR Policy Segment =
List Sub-TLVs"

Yours,
Cheng and Guanming

From: Susan Hares <shares@ndzh.com>
Sent: Monday, November 3, 2025 9:45 AM
To: idr <idr@ietf.org>
Subject: [Idr] BGP-SR: Shepherd's review for draft-ietf-idr-sr-policy-path-=
mtu-12


Draft Summary
draft:  [draft-ietf-idr-sr-policy-path-mtu](/group/idr/implementations/draf=
t-ietf-idr-sr-policy-path-mtu)
Type: Proposed Standard
status: WG Draft, needs revision 13 prior to early allocation
adopted: [9/1/2024](https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/idr/xUckKQncQ4rLV=
CCAkBO6bQ6zcuk/) (8/1 to 8/30 call)
current version: -12
Early Allocation: yes, needs -13 revision
implementations: 1 (Huawei in VRP)
related bgp-ls draft:  none

Shepherd Review on -12
**Summary:** Technical issues from -10 are not resolved in -12. Also, the n=
ame of the
IANA registry is: SR Policy Segment List Sub-TLVs.  Please make these corre=
ction in -13.

Next steps:
1. Publish -13 with corrections
2. Get shepherd's review of -13
3. If -13 is ok, then do 2 week Early Allocation call

Sue Hares


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o Sue<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
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k you for your help!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:11.0pt"><o:p=
>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:11.0pt">Base=
d on Shepherd Review on -12, we have made the following modifications in -1=
3 revision:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:11.0pt"><o:p=
>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
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<![if !supportLists]><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:11.0pt"><span =
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n&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span></span><![endif]><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:11.0=
pt">Technical issues from -10 has been resolved, specifically:<o:p></o:p></=
span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:11.0pt">&#82=
20;Issue-4:&nbsp; Missing Manageability section<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:11.0pt"><o:p=
>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:11.0pt">Plea=
se add an section to indicate how operators may manage set or monitor<o:p><=
/o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:11.0pt">the =
PATH MTU via existing Yang modules or BGP-LS support.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:11.0pt"><o:p=
>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:11.0pt">If t=
hese do not exist, suggest whether a yang module or BGP-LS support would be=
 useful.&#8221;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:11.0pt"><o:p=
>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:11.0pt">We h=
ave added a section of Manageability Considerations:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:11.0pt">&#82=
20;Currently, there is no standardized YANG data model that explicitly expo=
ses the Path MTU value carried in the BGP SR Policy Path MTU Sub-TLV to net=
work management systems or operators. Similarly,
 while BGP-LS can distribute link-level MTU information (as defined in [I-D=
.ietf-idr-bgp-ls-link-mtu]), it does not natively convey end-to-end Path MT=
U values associated with specific SR Policies.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:11.0pt"><o:p=
>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:11.0pt">Stan=
dardized manageability support would significantly improve operational visi=
bility and automation. Therefore, the authors recommend a YANG Module Exten=
sion: Extend the YANG data model for SR
 Policies (e.g., ietf-sr-policy or vendor-specific models) to include a rea=
d-only leaf for path-mtu, reflecting the value received via BGP or configur=
ed locally. This would enable NETCONF/RESTCONF-based retrieval and integrat=
ion with network assurance systems.&#8221;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:11.0pt"><o:p=
>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:11.0pt"><o:p=
>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:11.0pt">Othe=
r issues from -10 have already been solved in the past revisions.<o:p></o:p=
></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:11.0pt"><o:p=
>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:11.0pt">(2) =
&nbsp;the name of the IANA registry has been modified as &#8220;SR Policy S=
egment List Sub-TLVs&#8221;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-=
family:DengXian"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:11.0pt">Your=
s,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:11.0pt">Chen=
g and Guanming<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-=
family:DengXian"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
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nt-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;mso-ligatures:none">From:</span></=
b><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&=
quot;,sans-serif;mso-ligatures:none"> Susan Hares &lt;shares@ndzh.com&gt;
<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, November 3, 2025 9:45 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> idr &lt;idr@ietf.org&gt;<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Idr] BGP-SR: Shepherd's review for draft-ietf-idr-sr-polic=
y-path-mtu-12
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:11.0pt"><o:p=
>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:11.0pt">Draf=
t Summary <o:p>
</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:11.0pt">draf=
t:&nbsp; [draft-ietf-idr-sr-policy-path-mtu](/group/idr/implementations/dra=
ft-ietf-idr-sr-policy-path-mtu)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:11.0pt">Type=
: Proposed Standard
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:11.0pt">stat=
us: WG Draft, needs revision 13 prior to early allocation &nbsp;<o:p></o:p>=
</span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:11.0pt">adop=
ted: [9/1/2024](<a href=3D"https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/idr/xUckKQ=
ncQ4rLVCCAkBO6bQ6zcuk/">https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/idr/xUckKQncQ=
4rLVCCAkBO6bQ6zcuk/</a>) (8/1 to 8/30 call)
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:11.0pt">curr=
ent version: -12<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:11.0pt">Earl=
y Allocation: yes, needs -13 revision
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:11.0pt">impl=
ementations: 1 (Huawei in VRP)&nbsp;&nbsp;
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:11.0pt">rela=
ted bgp-ls draft: &nbsp;none<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:11.0pt">Shep=
herd Review on -12
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:11.0pt">**Su=
mmary:** Technical issues from -10 are not resolved in -12. Also, the name =
of the
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:11.0pt">IANA=
 registry is: SR Policy Segment List Sub-TLVs.&nbsp; Please make these corr=
ection in -13.
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>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:11.0pt">Next=
 steps: <o:p>
</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:11.0pt">1. P=
ublish -13 with corrections<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:11.0pt">2. G=
et shepherd's review of -13<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:11.0pt">3. I=
f -13 is ok, then do 2 week Early Allocation call<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:11.0pt">Sue =
Hares <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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