Re: [Idr] WGLC on draft-ietf-idr-as-private-reservation-00

Christopher Morrow <morrowc.lists@gmail.com> Thu, 29 November 2012 18:19 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Idr] WGLC on draft-ietf-idr-as-private-reservation-00
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On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 1:01 PM, Tony Li <tony.li@tony.li> wrote:
>
> On Nov 29, 2012, at 9:50 AM, Jared Mauch <jared@puck.nether.net> wrote:
>
>>> Internet folks will say "Do not trash our environment"
>>
>> As an operator, I feel this is a fair thing for me to say. :)
>
>
> Indeed it is.
>
> However, I think it's also fair to point out that allocating a chunk from a large namespace and effectively taking out of the big I environment doesn't do much to trash it.
>

because private asns don't leak?
route-views>sho ip bgp regex _64..._
<snip>
   Network          Next Hop            Metric LocPrf Weight Path
*  27.123.19.0/24   195.66.232.239                         0 5459 38082 64549 ?
*  41.76.104.0/21   196.7.106.245            0             0 2905 11845 64525 i
*  41.90.0.0/16     114.31.199.1             0             0 4826 8966
33771 65535 64555 64555 33771 i
*                   194.85.40.15                           0 3267 2603
8966 33771 65535 64555 64555 33771 i
*  41.209.32.0/19   164.128.32.11                          0 3303 174
9129 9129 9129 9129 {4558,15808,64520} i
*  131.124.1.0/24   69.31.111.244            0             0 4436 4323 64778 i
*  131.124.2.0/24   69.31.111.244            0             0 4436 4323 64778 i
*  131.124.3.0/24   69.31.111.244            0             0 4436 4323 64778 i
*  131.124.4.0/24   69.31.111.244            0             0 4436 4323 64778 i
*  131.124.5.0/24   69.31.111.244            0             0 4436 4323 64778 i

(hi twtc! filter-customer-much?)