Re: [Idr] draft-ietf-idr-bgp-extended-messages-12 WG LC (5/24 to 6/7)
Robert Raszuk <robert@raszuk.net> Thu, 26 May 2016 11:20 UTC
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Subject: Re: [Idr] draft-ietf-idr-bgp-extended-messages-12 WG LC (5/24 to 6/7)
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Hi Bruno/all, “A protocol designer or network operator needing to advertise, outside of > its AS, a BGP route which size would require a BGP message larger than 4096 > octets should take into account that it has no guarantee that its route > will be propagated as expected as a downstream BGP speaker might not be > compliant or might not has enabled BGP extended messages and hence will not > propagate the route. This is especially the case if one expect Internet > wide propagation of its route, which seems highly improbable until a few > years/decades”. > The above text which very true triggered few more observations: - As this is WG last call implementation report (even on the wiki should be available) Can we get a pointer to it ? I do not see it on the IETF page: https://www.ietf.org/iesg/implementation-report.html - Did implementation report (if even completed) included the set of test cases say with large AS_PATH or long Extended Community (stuffing a lot of RTs as described in RTC backwards compatibility work) to make sure that most popular BGP implementation can handle such large attributes without crashing ? Otherwise enabling this would be an excellent attack vector in the Internet. - Do we have an agreement that this will not be "ON" by default, but will be enabled only with a knob ? - How do we detect if this is supported across the private AS/public Internet zoo of routers ? Should we have a protocol tool which would allow to detect support of extended messages at each BGP speaker and if not report this as an error to the originator of the large message ? Sending large BGP message if not supported by any remote peer by any BGP speaker along the propagation would trigger reporting it back with new ICMP error could be one approach. I am sure there would be others ... Thx, r.
- [Idr] draft-ietf-idr-bgp-extended-messages-12 WG … Susan Hares
- Re: [Idr] draft-ietf-idr-bgp-extended-messages-12… Job Snijders
- Re: [Idr] draft-ietf-idr-bgp-extended-messages-12… Acee Lindem (acee)
- Re: [Idr] draft-ietf-idr-bgp-extended-messages-12… Christopher Morrow
- Re: [Idr] draft-ietf-idr-bgp-extended-messages-12… heasley
- Re: [Idr] draft-ietf-idr-bgp-extended-messages-12… Jeff Tantsura
- Re: [Idr] draft-ietf-idr-bgp-extended-messages-12… Randy Bush
- Re: [Idr] draft-ietf-idr-bgp-extended-messages-12… Van De Velde, Gunter (Nokia - BE)
- Re: [Idr] draft-ietf-idr-bgp-extended-messages-12… Randy Bush
- Re: [Idr] draft-ietf-idr-bgp-extended-messages-12… Gunter Van De Velde
- Re: [Idr] draft-ietf-idr-bgp-extended-messages-12… Randy Bush
- Re: [Idr] draft-ietf-idr-bgp-extended-messages-12… Van De Velde, Gunter (Nokia - BE)
- Re: [Idr] draft-ietf-idr-bgp-extended-messages-12… bruno.decraene
- Re: [Idr] draft-ietf-idr-bgp-extended-messages-12… Randy Bush
- Re: [Idr] draft-ietf-idr-bgp-extended-messages-12… Van De Velde, Gunter (Nokia - BE)
- Re: [Idr] draft-ietf-idr-bgp-extended-messages-12… Robert Raszuk
- Re: [Idr] draft-ietf-idr-bgp-extended-messages-12… Acee Lindem (acee)
- Re: [Idr] draft-ietf-idr-bgp-extended-messages-12… Acee Lindem (acee)
- Re: [Idr] draft-ietf-idr-bgp-extended-messages-12… bruno.decraene
- Re: [Idr] draft-ietf-idr-bgp-extended-messages-12… Robert Raszuk
- Re: [Idr] draft-ietf-idr-bgp-extended-messages-12… Robert Raszuk
- Re: [Idr] draft-ietf-idr-bgp-extended-messages-12… Acee Lindem (acee)
- Re: [Idr] draft-ietf-idr-bgp-extended-messages-12… Robert Raszuk
- Re: [Idr] draft-ietf-idr-bgp-extended-messages-12… Keyur Patel (keyupate)
- Re: [Idr] draft-ietf-idr-bgp-extended-messages-12… Keyur Patel (keyupate)
- Re: [Idr] draft-ietf-idr-bgp-extended-messages-12… Keyur Patel (keyupate)
- Re: [Idr] draft-ietf-idr-bgp-extended-messages-12… Robert Raszuk
- Re: [Idr] draft-ietf-idr-bgp-extended-messages-12… Keyur Patel (keyupate)
- Re: [Idr] draft-ietf-idr-bgp-extended-messages-12… Robert Raszuk
- Re: [Idr] draft-ietf-idr-bgp-extended-messages-12… Keyur Patel (keyupate)
- Re: [Idr] draft-ietf-idr-bgp-extended-messages-12… Keyur Patel (keyupate)
- Re: [Idr] draft-ietf-idr-bgp-extended-messages-12… Robert Raszuk
- Re: [Idr] draft-ietf-idr-bgp-extended-messages-12… Keyur Patel (keyupate)
- Re: [Idr] draft-ietf-idr-bgp-extended-messages-12… Sriram, Kotikalapudi (Fed)
- Re: [Idr] draft-ietf-idr-bgp-extended-messages-12… Sriram, Kotikalapudi (Fed)
- Re: [Idr] draft-ietf-idr-bgp-extended-messages-12… Robert Raszuk
- Re: [Idr] draft-ietf-idr-bgp-extended-messages-12… Ignas Bagdonas
- Re: [Idr] draft-ietf-idr-bgp-extended-messages-12… Russ White
- Re: [Idr] draft-ietf-idr-bgp-extended-messages-12… Zhuangshunwan
- Re: [Idr] draft-ietf-idr-bgp-extended-messages-12… bruno.decraene
- Re: [Idr] draft-ietf-idr-bgp-extended-messages-12… Robert Raszuk
- Re: [Idr] draft-ietf-idr-bgp-extended-messages-12… Randy Bush
- Re: [Idr] draft-ietf-idr-bgp-extended-messages-12… Robert Raszuk
- Re: [Idr] draft-ietf-idr-bgp-extended-messages-12… Jeffrey Haas
- Re: [Idr] draft-ietf-idr-bgp-extended-messages-12… Susan Hares
- Re: [Idr] draft-ietf-idr-bgp-extended-messages-12… Susan Hares