Re: [Idr] draft-walton-bgp-hostname-capability-00

John Heasley <heas@shrubbery.net> Sun, 17 May 2015 02:49 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Idr] draft-walton-bgp-hostname-capability-00
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Am 16.05.2015 um 19:07 schrieb Dinesh Dutt <ddutt@cumulusnetworks.com>:
> 
> In the data center, you've met the other side, and its you. I don't think I said that carrying the hostname was a BGP problem. We see it as a way to simplify operations in the DC, by supplementing numbers with names,
> 

If you want to give it a name, then do so in your config. Ie: 'neighbor 1.2.3.4 name peerWhoICallJoe' provides 'clear ip bgp peerWhoICallJoeNet', usw.

 If i am malicious, which i am, and automated, which i may be, i can change the name every April Fools day - or every day - or after every reboot - or it might move to another device. Your managment should be based on a name that you control and is meaningful to _you_. Even if i like the like the idea of referring to a peer by name, i want it to be the name/ID that i know it by ... In my CRM/database, not whatever goofy name the peer has given to the device.