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CC: "Van De Velde, Gunter (Nokia - BE/Antwerp)"
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Subject: [Idr] IANA Early allocation request for
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Hello Sue/John,

While the document is progressing on the WGLC, is it possible for us to req=
uest for early allocation for the following pending TLV code-point to aid i=
mplementation?

https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-idr-bgp-ls-flex-algo-04#section-5

    1045 (suggested) - Flex Algorithm Exclude SRLG TLV

Thanks,
Ketan

From: Van De Velde, Gunter (Nokia - BE/Antwerp) <gunter.van_de_velde@nokia.=
com>
Sent: 03 November 2020 18:36
To: Ketan Talaulikar (ketant) <ketant@cisco.com>; Susan Hares <shares@ndzh.=
com>; idr@ietf.org
Subject: RE: [Idr] IPR and WG LC for draft-ietf-idr-bgp-ls-flex-algo-04.txt=
 (11/1 to 11/16)

Hi Ketan,

Thanks for the info.
Having early allocation code point will help me to progress Nokia implement=
ation.

Kind Regards,
G/

From: Ketan Talaulikar (ketant) <ketant@cisco.com<mailto:ketant@cisco.com>>
Sent: Tuesday, November 3, 2020 13:55
To: Van De Velde, Gunter (Nokia - BE/Antwerp) <gunter.van_de_velde@nokia.co=
m<mailto:gunter.van_de_velde@nokia.com>>; Susan Hares <shares@ndzh.com<mail=
to:shares@ndzh.com>>; idr@ietf.org<mailto:idr@ietf.org>
Subject: RE: [Idr] IPR and WG LC for draft-ietf-idr-bgp-ls-flex-algo-04.txt=
 (11/1 to 11/16)

Hi Gunter,

You are correct that early allocation has not been yet made for the FA Excl=
ude SRLG TLV. This was because none of the authors had (yet) got to impleme=
nt it and there was no request received for it.

IMHO we should go ahead with a parallel request for early allocation if it =
is holding up an implementation. Do let know if we need to and if not wait =
for it happen at publication time.

Thanks,
Ketan

From: Idr <idr-bounces@ietf.org<mailto:idr-bounces@ietf.org>> On Behalf Of =
Van De Velde, Gunter (Nokia - BE/Antwerp)
Sent: 03 November 2020 18:06
To: Susan Hares <shares@ndzh.com<mailto:shares@ndzh.com>>; idr@ietf.org<mai=
lto:idr@ietf.org>
Subject: Re: [Idr] IPR and WG LC for draft-ietf-idr-bgp-ls-flex-algo-04.txt=
 (11/1 to 11/16)

Hi Sue, All,

Support to progress this draft.
Please be aware that no code point is assigned yet to the Flex Algo Exclude=
 SRLG TLV (chapter 3.5 of draft BGP-LS Extensions for Flex-Algo).

Nokia has an implementation of this draft.

G/


From: Idr <idr-bounces@ietf.org<mailto:idr-bounces@ietf.org>> On Behalf Of =
Susan Hares
Sent: Monday, November 2, 2020 03:19
To: idr@ietf.org<mailto:idr@ietf.org>
Subject: [Idr] IPR and WG LC for draft-ietf-idr-bgp-ls-flex-algo-04.txt (11=
/1 to 11/16)

This begins a 2 week WG LC for  draft-ietf-idr-bgp-ls-flex-algo-04.txt
(11/1 to 11/16).

The authors should send their IPR statements by Tuesday (11/3)
or this WG LC will be extended 1 extra week.

You can access the draft at:
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-idr-bgp-ls-flex-algo/

This draft is also needed to match BGP work to LSR specification
for draft-ietf-lsr-flex-algo-13.txt (at IESG).

There are 2 Cisco implementations of draft-ietf-idr-bgp-ls-flex-algo.
Details on the implementations are at:
https://trac.ietf.org/trac/idr/wiki/draft-ietf-idr-bgp-ls-flex-algo%20imple=
mentations

WG members should consider in their response:

a) Are there technical issues with the flexible algorithm technology?
b) Is this draft ready for publication?
c) Will this technology aid LSR deployments?
d) Are you concerned about the 2 implementations coming
only from Cisco?

If you know of any other planned implementations, please send
Chairs this information or respond to this email to inform the WG.

Cheers, Susan Hares


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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Hello Sue=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p>&nbs=
p;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"mso-fareast-language:EN-US">While the=
 document is progressing on the WGLC, is it possible for us to request for =
early allocation for the following pending TLV code-point to aid implementa=
tion?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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p;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><a href=
=3D"https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-idr-bgp-ls-flex-algo-04#section-=
5">https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-idr-bgp-ls-flex-algo-04#section-5=
</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p>&nbs=
p;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;;color:black">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 1045 (suggested) - Flex Alg=
orithm Exclude SRLG TLV<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p>&nbs=
p;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Thanks,<o=
:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Ketan<o:p=
></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p>&nbs=
p;</o:p></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span lang=3D"EN-US">From:</span></b><span lang=
=3D"EN-US"> Van De Velde, Gunter (Nokia - BE/Antwerp) &lt;gunter.van_de_vel=
de@nokia.com&gt;
<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 03 November 2020 18:36<br>
<b>To:</b> Ketan Talaulikar (ketant) &lt;ketant@cisco.com&gt;; Susan Hares =
&lt;shares@ndzh.com&gt;; idr@ietf.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [Idr] IPR and WG LC for draft-ietf-idr-bgp-ls-flex-algo=
-04.txt (11/1 to 11/16)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Hi Ketan,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Thanks for the info.<o:p></o:p>=
</span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Having early allocation code po=
int will help me to progress Nokia implementation.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Kind Regards,<o:p></o:p></span>=
</p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">G/<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span lang=3D"EN-US">From:</span></b><span lang=
=3D"EN-US"> Ketan Talaulikar (ketant) &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:ketant@cisco.co=
m">ketant@cisco.com</a>&gt;
<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, November 3, 2020 13:55<br>
<b>To:</b> Van De Velde, Gunter (Nokia - BE/Antwerp) &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:=
gunter.van_de_velde@nokia.com">gunter.van_de_velde@nokia.com</a>&gt;; Susan=
 Hares &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:shares@ndzh.com">shares@ndzh.com</a>&gt;;
<a href=3D"mailto:idr@ietf.org">idr@ietf.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [Idr] IPR and WG LC for draft-ietf-idr-bgp-ls-flex-algo=
-04.txt (11/1 to 11/16)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Hi Gunter,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">You are correct that early allocation has not been y=
et made for the FA Exclude SRLG TLV. This was because none of the authors h=
ad (yet) got to implement it and there was no request received for it.<o:p>=
</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">IMHO we should go ahead with a parallel request for =
early allocation if it is holding up an implementation. Do let know if we n=
eed to and if not wait for it happen at publication time.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Thanks,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Ketan<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span lang=3D"EN-US">From:</span></b><span lang=
=3D"EN-US"> Idr &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:idr-bounces@ietf.org">idr-bounces@iet=
f.org</a>&gt;
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Van De Velde, Gunter (Nokia - BE/Antwerp)<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 03 November 2020 18:06<br>
<b>To:</b> Susan Hares &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:shares@ndzh.com">shares@ndzh.c=
om</a>&gt;; <a href=3D"mailto:idr@ietf.org">
idr@ietf.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Idr] IPR and WG LC for draft-ietf-idr-bgp-ls-flex-algo=
-04.txt (11/1 to 11/16)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Hi Sue, All,<o:p></o:p></span><=
/p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Support to progress this draft.=
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Please be aware that no code po=
int is assigned yet to the Flex Algo Exclude SRLG TLV (chapter 3.5 of draft=
 BGP-LS Extensions for Flex-Algo).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Nokia has an implementation of =
this draft.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">G/<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
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0cm 0cm">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span lang=3D"EN-US">From:</span></b><span lang=
=3D"EN-US"> Idr &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:idr-bounces@ietf.org">idr-bounces@iet=
f.org</a>&gt;
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Susan Hares<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, November 2, 2020 03:19<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:idr@ietf.org">idr@ietf.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Idr] IPR and WG LC for draft-ietf-idr-bgp-ls-flex-algo-04.=
txt (11/1 to 11/16)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">This begins a 2 week WG LC for =
&nbsp;draft-ietf-idr-bgp-ls-flex-algo-04.txt
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">(11/1 to 11/16). &nbsp;&nbsp;<o=
:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">The authors should send their I=
PR statements by Tuesday (11/3)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">or this WG LC will be extended =
1 extra week.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">You can access the draft at: <o=
:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><a href=3D"https://datatracker.=
ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-idr-bgp-ls-flex-algo/">https://datatracker.ietf.org=
/doc/draft-ietf-idr-bgp-ls-flex-algo/</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">This draft is also needed to ma=
tch BGP work to LSR specification
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">for draft-ietf-lsr-flex-algo-13=
.txt (at IESG).
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">There are 2 Cisco implementatio=
ns of draft-ietf-idr-bgp-ls-flex-algo.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Details on the implementations =
are at:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><a href=3D"https://trac.ietf.or=
g/trac/idr/wiki/draft-ietf-idr-bgp-ls-flex-algo%20implementations">https://=
trac.ietf.org/trac/idr/wiki/draft-ietf-idr-bgp-ls-flex-algo%20implementatio=
ns</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">WG members should consider in t=
heir response:
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">a) Are there technical issues w=
ith the flexible algorithm technology?
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">b) Is this draft ready for publ=
ication? <o:p>
</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">c) Will this technology aid LSR=
 deployments?
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">d) Are you concerned about the =
2 implementations coming
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">only from Cisco? <o:p></o:p></s=
pan></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">If you know of any other planne=
d implementations, please send
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Chairs this information or resp=
ond to this email to inform the WG.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Cheers, Susan Hares &nbsp;<o:p>=
</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
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