Re: [Idr] Call for adoption of draft-mitchell-idr-private-as-reservation-01 as IDR WG document
David Farmer <farmer@umn.edu> Tue, 28 August 2012 02:46 UTC
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Subject: Re: [Idr] Call for adoption of draft-mitchell-idr-private-as-reservation-01 as IDR WG document
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On 8/27/12 21:29 CDT, Randy Bush wrote: >> Sure, RFC2270 seems to be one reasonable solution for the use case of an >> ISP providing ASNs to single homed customers that do not require route >> connectivity to each other except via default, and yes, I'm aware of it >> and seen it deployed at multiple places I've worked. Of course, the >> unsaid thing in this draft is that using a seperate (private) ASN per >> customer site was not viable due to limited private use ASN space > > 2270 is widely deployed. i have not run across the case where we wanted > more than one private asn. any sane provider is doing templated or > generated config, and using a single asn is simpler and just works. > > i am sure i can dream up convoluted uses for a mass of as numbers. but > what i can not do is come up with convoluted case which is worth the end > run on having good registration of the use/assignment of those asns. I'm sorry but it is not a convoluted use case, section 3.1 of RFC 2270 details the exact case, if the customer wants a full route table. And BGP customer wanting a full global route table in not convoluted, it is a perfectly reasonable request from a customer. If they don't have a globally unique ASN to use, then in that case the easiest thing to do is use a unique private ASN for that customer and no other customer. I recommend the customer gets an RIR assigned globally unique ASN, but some customers don't want to do that. -- =============================================== David Farmer Email:farmer@umn.edu Networking & Telecommunication Services Office of Information Technology University of Minnesota 2218 University Ave SE Phone: 612-626-0815 Minneapolis, MN 55414-3029 Cell: 612-812-9952 ===============================================
- [Idr] Call for adoption of draft-mitchell-idr-pri… Susan Hares
- Re: [Idr] Call for adoption of draft-mitchell-idr… Randy Bush
- Re: [Idr] Call for adoption of draft-mitchell-idr… David Farmer
- Re: [Idr] Call for adoption of draft-mitchell-idr… Petr Lapukhov
- Re: [Idr] Call for adoption of draft-mitchell-idr… Brian Dickson
- Re: [Idr] Call for adoption of draft-mitchell-idr… Randy Bush
- Re: [Idr] Call for adoption of draft-mitchell-idr… Shishio Tsuchiya
- Re: [Idr] Call for adoption of draft-mitchell-idr… Gunter Van de Velde (gvandeve)
- Re: [Idr] [v6ops] Call for adoption of draft-mitc… David Farmer
- Re: [Idr] [v6ops] Call for adoption of draft-mitc… Randy Bush
- Re: [Idr] Call for adoption of draft-mitchell-idr… Jon Mitchell
- Re: [Idr] [v6ops] Call for adoption of draft-mitc… Gert Doering
- Re: [Idr] Call for adoption of draft-mitchell-idr… Randy Bush
- Re: [Idr] Call for adoption of draft-mitchell-idr… David Farmer
- Re: [Idr] Call for adoption of draft-mitchell-idr… Randy Bush
- Re: [Idr] Call for adoption of draft-mitchell-idr… David Farmer
- Re: [Idr] Call for adoption of draft-mitchell-idr… Randy Bush
- Re: [Idr] Call for adoption of draft-mitchell-idr… Jon Mitchell
- Re: [Idr] Call for adoption of draft-mitchell-idr… Jeffrey Haas
- Re: [Idr] Call for adoption of draft-mitchell-idr… Mohan Nanduri
- Re: [Idr] Call for adoption of draft-mitchell-idr… John G. Scudder