Re: [Idr] update proposal to draft-ietf-idr-rfc5575bis-14

ERCIN TORUN <ercin.torun@turkcell.com.tr> Thu, 16 May 2019 08:06 UTC

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From: ERCIN TORUN <ercin.torun@turkcell.com.tr>
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Hello Jeffrey,

On a router a filter on all interfaces or on one interface consume the same amount of TCAM* that's why in the first place i think that a targeting mechanism would be useful.  An interface set is definitely useful also.

I know your draft, even i'm in touch with my vendor if (when) it will be applied to their software. I think https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-idr-flowspec-interfaceset-04  and https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-dong-idr-node-target-ext-comm-00   together solves "targeted advertisement with an interface set" problem.

* https://community.cisco.com/t5/xr-os-and-platforms/bgp-flowspec-scale-and-performance/td-p/2749018

Regards
Erçin TORUN
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From: Jeffrey Haas <jhaas@pfrc.org>
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To: ERCIN TORUN <ercin.torun@turkcell.com.tr>
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Subject: Re: [Idr] update proposal to draft-ietf-idr-rfc5575bis-14

Erçin,

On Thu, May 09, 2019 at 12:02:42PM +0000, ERCIN TORUN wrote:
> Hello All,
>
> My name is Ercin TORUN<https://tr.linkedin.com/in/ercintorun> and I’m working in Turkcell Turkey (35M-mobile/2M-fixed customer, +digital services) as an IP/MPLS Network Planning Engineer.  I would like to propose an update to draft-ietf-idr-rfc5575bis-14<https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-idr-rfc5575bis-14>.
>
> By default all flowspec entries (filters..) are applied to all routers, and unnecessary application of many filters can easily owerwhelm the capacity of routers resources (e.g. TCAM). We are pushing layer3 to the edges with solutions like seamless-mpls or leaf-spine next-generation DC topologies which widens the layer3 domain easily over thousands of devices. It is best to filter “dirty” traffic where it first enters a network. There are ways to accept BGP announcements only on the targeted router, like defining a community for each router and configuring policies, but an automated way would be much more easier and less error-prone. Our idea is using a route-taget to match with BGP Identifier so that only the targeted router might accept the announcement.

You may find the following draft (expired - sorry... we need to fix it) of
interest:

https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-idr-flowspec-interfaceset-04

-- Jeff


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