Re: [Idr] Squatters (Was: BGP Attribute for Large communities (Attribute 30) was squatted on..)

Sander Steffann <sander@steffann.nl> Thu, 27 October 2016 10:14 UTC

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Hi,

Op 27 okt. 2016, om 12:01 heeft Mikael Abrahamsson <swmike@swm.pp.se>; het volgende geschreven:
> On Thu, 27 Oct 2016, Job Snijders wrote:
>> The problem here is that people are not abiding the rules, and offering more codepoints will only work if people abide those rules. I have no confidence that more dev codepoints resolve the issue.
> 
> Perhaps we could ask the squatters why they didn't use 255 for their development testing?
> 
> If this was because they already used 255 for some other project, then it might make sense to have more code points. If it was because they weren't aware of it, then that's a problem and assigning more code points wouldn't help, agreed.

Full agreement
Sander