Re: [Idr] draft-ietf-idr-route-leak-detection-mitigation

"John G. Scudder" <jgs@juniper.net> Tue, 20 March 2018 11:14 UTC

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To: "Sriram, Kotikalapudi (Fed)" <kotikalapudi.sriram@nist.gov>
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Subject: Re: [Idr] draft-ietf-idr-route-leak-detection-mitigation
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(as an individual contributor)

Hi Sriram,

> On Mar 19, 2018, at 11:06 PM, Sriram, Kotikalapudi (Fed) <kotikalapudi.sriram@nist.gov>; wrote:
> 
>> 1) What ASes actually care about this given that CAIDA and others have
>> demonstrated that these relationships can be inferred from DFZ RIBs?  Is
>> this argument based on actual complaints within the last decade?
> 
> The draft was developed/discussed in GROW for a year before moving to IDR. 
> Don’t recall that there were any actual complaints.    

During the meeting, when Alex asked that the draft document this concern, I believe you responded in part that it already does, in one of the appendices. I just glanced quickly through the draft and it was not obvious to me where it's documented. Can you provide a pointer?

In any case I think that rather than rehash whether the concern is, or is not, legitimate, it's better to simply document it clearly and move on. Full disclosure, price of doing business, etc. 

Thanks,

--John