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Subject: Re: [Idr] IPR and WG LC for draft-ietf-idr-bgp-ls-flex-algo-04.txt
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Hi Ketan,

Thanks for the info.
Having early allocation code point will help me to progress Nokia implement=
ation.

Kind Regards,
G/

From: Ketan Talaulikar (ketant) <ketant@cisco.com>
Sent: Tuesday, November 3, 2020 13:55
To: Van De Velde, Gunter (Nokia - BE/Antwerp) <gunter.van_de_velde@nokia.co=
m>; Susan Hares <shares@ndzh.com>; idr@ietf.org
Subject: RE: [Idr] IPR and WG LC for draft-ietf-idr-bgp-ls-flex-algo-04.txt=
 (11/1 to 11/16)

Hi Gunter,

You are correct that early allocation has not been yet made for the FA Excl=
ude SRLG TLV. This was because none of the authors had (yet) got to impleme=
nt it and there was no request received for it.

IMHO we should go ahead with a parallel request for early allocation if it =
is holding up an implementation. Do let know if we need to and if not wait =
for it happen at publication time.

Thanks,
Ketan

From: Idr <idr-bounces@ietf.org<mailto:idr-bounces@ietf.org>> On Behalf Of =
Van De Velde, Gunter (Nokia - BE/Antwerp)
Sent: 03 November 2020 18:06
To: Susan Hares <shares@ndzh.com<mailto:shares@ndzh.com>>; idr@ietf.org<mai=
lto:idr@ietf.org>
Subject: Re: [Idr] IPR and WG LC for draft-ietf-idr-bgp-ls-flex-algo-04.txt=
 (11/1 to 11/16)

Hi Sue, All,

Support to progress this draft.
Please be aware that no code point is assigned yet to the Flex Algo Exclude=
 SRLG TLV (chapter 3.5 of draft BGP-LS Extensions for Flex-Algo).

Nokia has an implementation of this draft.

G/


From: Idr <idr-bounces@ietf.org<mailto:idr-bounces@ietf.org>> On Behalf Of =
Susan Hares
Sent: Monday, November 2, 2020 03:19
To: idr@ietf.org<mailto:idr@ietf.org>
Subject: [Idr] IPR and WG LC for draft-ietf-idr-bgp-ls-flex-algo-04.txt (11=
/1 to 11/16)

This begins a 2 week WG LC for  draft-ietf-idr-bgp-ls-flex-algo-04.txt
(11/1 to 11/16).

The authors should send their IPR statements by Tuesday (11/3)
or this WG LC will be extended 1 extra week.

You can access the draft at:
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-idr-bgp-ls-flex-algo/

This draft is also needed to match BGP work to LSR specification
for draft-ietf-lsr-flex-algo-13.txt (at IESG).

There are 2 Cisco implementations of draft-ietf-idr-bgp-ls-flex-algo.
Details on the implementations are at:
https://trac.ietf.org/trac/idr/wiki/draft-ietf-idr-bgp-ls-flex-algo%20imple=
mentations

WG members should consider in their response:

a) Are there technical issues with the flexible algorithm technology?
b) Is this draft ready for publication?
c) Will this technology aid LSR deployments?
d) Are you concerned about the 2 implementations coming
only from Cisco?

If you know of any other planned implementations, please send
Chairs this information or respond to this email to inform the WG.

Cheers, Susan Hares


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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Hi Ketan,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Thanks for the info.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Having early allocation code point will help me to p=
rogress Nokia implementation.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Kind Regards,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">G/<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Ketan Talaulikar (ketant) &lt;ketant@ci=
sco.com&gt; <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, November 3, 2020 13:55<br>
<b>To:</b> Van De Velde, Gunter (Nokia - BE/Antwerp) &lt;gunter.van_de_veld=
e@nokia.com&gt;; Susan Hares &lt;shares@ndzh.com&gt;; idr@ietf.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [Idr] IPR and WG LC for draft-ietf-idr-bgp-ls-flex-algo=
-04.txt (11/1 to 11/16)<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-IN">Hi Gunter,<o:p></o:p></span></p=
>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-IN"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-IN">You are correct that early allo=
cation has not been yet made for the FA Exclude SRLG TLV. This was because =
none of the authors had (yet) got to implement it and there was no request =
received for it.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-IN"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-IN">IMHO we should go ahead with a =
parallel request for early allocation if it is holding up an implementation=
. Do let know if we need to and if not wait for it happen at publication ti=
me.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-IN"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-IN">Thanks,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-IN">Ketan<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-IN"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Idr &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:idr-bounces@i=
etf.org">idr-bounces@ietf.org</a>&gt;
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Van De Velde, Gunter (Nokia - BE/Antwerp)<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 03 November 2020 18:06<br>
<b>To:</b> Susan Hares &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:shares@ndzh.com">shares@ndzh.c=
om</a>&gt;; <a href=3D"mailto:idr@ietf.org">
idr@ietf.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Idr] IPR and WG LC for draft-ietf-idr-bgp-ls-flex-algo=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-IN"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Hi Sue, All,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Support to progress this draft.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Please be aware that no code point is assigned yet t=
o the Flex Algo Exclude SRLG TLV (chapter 3.5 of draft BGP-LS Extensions fo=
r Flex-Algo).<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Nokia has an implementation of this draft.<o:p></o:p=
></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">G/<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Idr &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:idr-bounces@i=
etf.org">idr-bounces@ietf.org</a>&gt;
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Susan Hares<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, November 2, 2020 03:19<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:idr@ietf.org">idr@ietf.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Idr] IPR and WG LC for draft-ietf-idr-bgp-ls-flex-algo-04.=
txt (11/1 to 11/16)<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">This begins a 2 week WG LC for &nbsp;draft-ietf-idr-=
bgp-ls-flex-algo-04.txt
<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">(11/1 to 11/16). &nbsp;&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">The authors should send their IPR statements by Tues=
day (11/3)<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">or this WG LC will be extended 1 extra week. <o:p></=
o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">You can access the draft at: <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><a href=3D"https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ie=
tf-idr-bgp-ls-flex-algo/">https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-idr-b=
gp-ls-flex-algo/</a><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">This draft is also needed to match BGP work to LSR s=
pecification
<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">for draft-ietf-lsr-flex-algo-13.txt (at IESG). <o:p>=
</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">There are 2 Cisco implementations of draft-ietf-idr-=
bgp-ls-flex-algo.
<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Details on the implementations are at:<o:p></o:p></p=
>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><a href=3D"https://trac.ietf.org/trac/idr/wiki/draft=
-ietf-idr-bgp-ls-flex-algo%20implementations">https://trac.ietf.org/trac/id=
r/wiki/draft-ietf-idr-bgp-ls-flex-algo%20implementations</a><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">WG members should consider in their response: <o:p><=
/o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">a) Are there technical issues with the flexible algo=
rithm technology?
<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">b) Is this draft ready for publication? <o:p></o:p><=
/p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">c) Will this technology aid LSR deployments? <o:p></=
o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">d) Are you concerned about the 2 implementations com=
ing <o:p>
</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">only from Cisco? <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">If you know of any other planned implementations, pl=
ease send
<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Chairs this information or respond to this email to =
inform the WG.
<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Cheers, Susan Hares &nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
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