[Idr] Re: New Version Notification for draft-kriswamy-idr-route-type-capability-00.txt
Jeffrey Haas <jhaas@pfrc.org> Fri, 08 November 2024 10:34 UTC
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Robert, > On Nov 7, 2024, at 3:21 PM, Robert Raszuk <robert@raszuk.net> wrote: > > > "punching yet one more hole in efficient update replication" > > > > Fine. Stop saying that. You're wrong. > > I (and not only I) beg to differ. > > It is well known that inbound filtering/dropping of updates are trivial and cheap operations as compared with continued mangling of sender's peer sets. > > If you disagree with that basic fact it is your problem, but please do not attempt to turn off the mic. > > Quote from Jakob in one of similar threads about pushing filtering up: > > "Receiving and matching on an RD to drop a route is just so trivial in comparison." Thank you for identifying Jakob's implementation as your example. I'll note for the record that Jakob himself hasn't made these claims. Updates that are enqueued with the knowledge that they MUST be dropped at the receiver congests the route queues on an outbound basis, and wastes convergence time for updates containing routes that will have use at the receiver by making them do the work spinning their wheels to drop them. BGP permits this behavior. I don't recommend it as an implementation, although quoting one of my elders, "My competitors are welcome to implement it this way." What I find particularly perverse is that if you subscribe so deeply to the "just drop it" philosophy that you wasted your time on RFC 4684. Perhaps you consider that RFC a heresy you wish to recant? -- Jeff
- [Idr] FW: New Version Notification for draft-kris… Krishnaswamy Ananthamurthy (kriswamy)
- [Idr] Re: FW: New Version Notification for draft-… Robert Raszuk
- [Idr] Re: FW: New Version Notification for draft-… Robert Raszuk
- [Idr] Re: FW: New Version Notification for draft-… Krishnaswamy Ananthamurthy (kriswamy)
- [Idr] Re: FW: New Version Notification for draft-… Donatas Abraitis
- [Idr] Re: FW: New Version Notification for draft-… Robert Raszuk
- [Idr] Re: FW: New Version Notification for draft-… Donatas Abraitis
- [Idr] Re: FW: New Version Notification for draft-… Donatas Abraitis
- [Idr] draft-kriswamy-idr-route-type-capability-00 Jorge Rabadan (Nokia)
- [Idr] Re: draft-kriswamy-idr-route-type-capabilit… Krishnaswamy Ananthamurthy (kriswamy)
- [Idr] Re: draft-kriswamy-idr-route-type-capabilit… Jorge Rabadan (Nokia)
- [Idr] Re: FW: New Version Notification for draft-… Krishnaswamy Ananthamurthy (kriswamy)
- [Idr] Re: FW: New Version Notification for draft-… Robert Raszuk
- [Idr] Re: FW: New Version Notification for draft-… Krishnaswamy Ananthamurthy (kriswamy)
- [Idr] Re: FW: New Version Notification for draft-… Donatas Abraitis
- [Idr] Re: FW: New Version Notification for draft-… Ketan Talaulikar
- [Idr] Re: FW: New Version Notification for draft-… Robert Raszuk
- [Idr] Re: New Version Notification for draft-kris… Jeffrey Haas
- [Idr] Re: New Version Notification for draft-kris… Robert Raszuk
- [Idr] Re: New Version Notification for draft-kris… Jeffrey Haas
- [Idr] Re: New Version Notification for draft-kris… Robert Raszuk
- [Idr] Re: New Version Notification for draft-kris… Jeffrey Haas
- [Idr] Re: New Version Notification for draft-kris… Robert Raszuk
- [Idr] Re: New Version Notification for draft-kris… Jeffrey Haas
- [Idr] Re: New Version Notification for draft-kris… Robert Raszuk
- [Idr] Re: New Version Notification for draft-kris… Jeffrey Haas
- [Idr] Re: New Version Notification for draft-kris… Robert Raszuk