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[Idr] Re: AD review of draft-ietf-idr-bgp-ct-33

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From: John Scudder <jgs@juniper.net>
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Hi Authors and all,

During my review of draft-ietf-idr-bgp-car-10 I noticed something that also applies to your review:

BTW I noticed that the final paragraph of your Security Considerations is 
almost verbatim identical to the final paragraph of draft-ietf-idr-bgp-car-10.
I have no idea who cribbed from whom, or if the paragraph came from a third 
party, but take this as a suggestion to consider acknowledging sources of 
things like that, if not already covered in your acks. (I've also made this 
suggestion to the authors of bgp-car.)

Thanks,

—John

P.S.: Also I noticed a nit, s/Harpern/Halpern/

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