Re: [Idr] draft-walton-bgp-hostname-capability-00
Hannes Gredler <hannes@juniper.net> Mon, 18 May 2015 08:05 UTC
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From: Hannes Gredler <hannes@juniper.net>
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Subject: Re: [Idr] draft-walton-bgp-hostname-capability-00
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hi daniel, given the LL nature of the IP addresses (= no DNS) this sounds a reasonable proposal. assuming that all name information go to some internal database for resolution: have you put some thought on how to consolidate naming information from different sources ? (bgp-hostnames, BGP-LS node/link names, LLDP ...) /hannes On Sat, May 16, 2015 at 12:08:35AM -0400, Daniel Walton wrote: | Many of our customers use a Clos architecture and bgp peer to the IPv6 LL | address of every directly connected router. To avoid configuring neighbor | statements with LL addresses we support a "neighbor swpX interface" | command ("swpX" is the default notation for an interface name in cumulus | linux). We then peer to the LL address on the other end of the swpX link | (we only support this for point-to-point links). | When you run commands like "show ip bgp summary" you see a list of | interface names instead of IP addresses. Typically if you are loopback | peering you either become familiar with "10.0.0.1 is Chicago" because you | see 10.0.0.1 in the 'show ip bgp summ' output of several different routers | or you could use DNS to do a lookup on 10.0.0.1 and put the hostname in | the output. When every box is peering to LL addresses though ("swpX" for | short for us) you can't easily tell who that peer is and you can't use DNS | because they LL addresses | Before | leaf-11# show ip bgp summ | BGP router identifier 6.0.0.5, local AS number 65101 | BGP table version 25 | RIB entries 33, using 3960 bytes of memory | Peers 6, using 100 KiB of memory | Peer groups 1, using 56 bytes of memory | Neighbor V AS MsgRcvd MsgSent TblVer InQ OutQ Up/Down | State/PfxRcd | swp1 4 65000 196 198 0 0 0 00:02:51 | 9 | swp2 4 65000 195 200 0 0 0 00:02:51 | 9 | swp3 4 65000 197 200 0 0 0 00:02:51 | 9 | swp4 4 65000 198 200 0 0 0 00:02:51 | 9 | swp5 4 65201 207 200 0 0 0 00:02:51 | 2 | swp6 4 65202 210 201 0 0 0 00:02:52 | 2 | Total number of neighbors 6 | leaf-11# | spine-3# show ip bgp summ | BGP router identifier 6.0.0.15, local AS number 65000 | BGP table version 19 | RIB entries 33, using 3960 bytes of memory | Peers 8, using 134 KiB of memory | Peer groups 1, using 56 bytes of memory | Neighbor V AS MsgRcvd MsgSent TblVer InQ OutQ Up/Down | State/PfxRcd | swp5 4 65101 675 675 0 0 0 00:10:49 | 5 | swp6 4 65101 678 676 0 0 0 00:10:50 | 5 | swp7 4 65101 667 668 0 0 0 00:10:48 | 5 | swp8 4 65101 676 676 0 0 0 00:10:49 | 5 | swp9 4 65102 701 692 0 0 0 00:11:04 | 5 | swp10 4 65102 701 692 0 0 0 00:11:04 | 5 | swp11 4 65102 701 691 0 0 0 00:11:04 | 5 | swp12 4 65102 701 692 0 0 0 00:11:04 | 5 | Total number of neighbors 8 | spine-3# | spine-3# | After | leaf-11# show ip bgp summ | BGP router identifier 6.0.0.5, local AS number 65101 | BGP table version 25 | RIB entries 33, using 3960 bytes of memory | Peers 6, using 100 KiB of memory | Peer groups 1, using 56 bytes of memory | Neighbor V AS MsgRcvd MsgSent TblVer InQ OutQ Up/Down | State/PfxRcd | spine-1(swp1) 4 65000 211 213 0 0 0 00:03:07 | 9 | spine-2(swp2) 4 65000 210 215 0 0 0 00:03:07 | 9 | spine-3(swp3) 4 65000 212 215 0 0 0 00:03:07 | 9 | spine-4(swp4) 4 65000 213 215 0 0 0 00:03:07 | 9 | tor-11(swp5) 4 65201 222 215 0 0 0 00:03:07 | 2 | tor-12(swp6) 4 65202 225 216 0 0 0 00:03:08 | 2 | Total number of neighbors 6 | leaf-11# | spine-3# show ip bgp summ | BGP router identifier 6.0.0.15, local AS number 65000 | BGP table version 19 | RIB entries 33, using 3960 bytes of memory | Peers 8, using 134 KiB of memory | Peer groups 1, using 56 bytes of memory | Neighbor V AS MsgRcvd MsgSent TblVer InQ OutQ Up/Down | State/PfxRcd | leaf-11(swp5) 4 65101 1119 1119 0 0 0 00:18:13 | 5 | leaf-12(swp6) 4 65101 1122 1120 0 0 0 00:18:14 | 5 | leaf-13(swp7) 4 65101 1110 1111 0 0 0 00:18:12 | 5 | leaf-14(swp8) 4 65101 1119 1119 0 0 0 00:18:13 | 5 | leaf-21(swp9) 4 65102 1144 1135 0 0 0 00:18:28 | 5 | leaf-22(swp10) 4 65102 1144 1135 0 0 0 00:18:28 | 5 | leaf-23(swp11) 4 65102 1144 1134 0 0 0 00:18:28 | 5 | leaf-24(swp12) 4 65102 1144 1135 0 0 0 00:18:28 | 5 | Total number of neighbors 8 | spine-3# | It makes troubleshooting much easier. | Daniel | On Fri, May 15, 2015 at 9:58 PM, <[1]deleskie@gmail.com> wrote: | | Agree.. adding code for no real operational benefit | | Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone on the Rogers network. | Original Message | From: Randy Bush | Sent: Friday, May 15, 2015 10:52 PM | To: Daniel Walton | Cc: idr wg; Dinesh Dutt | Subject: Re: [Idr] draft-walton-bgp-hostname-capability-00 | one more unneeded place for things to go wrong | | randy | | _______________________________________________ | Idr mailing list | [2]Idr@ietf.org | [3]https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/idr | | References | | Visible links | 1. mailto:deleskie@gmail.com | 2. mailto:Idr@ietf.org | 3. https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/idr | _______________________________________________ | Idr mailing list | Idr@ietf.org | https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/idr
- [Idr] draft-walton-bgp-hostname-capability-00 Daniel Walton
- Re: [Idr] draft-walton-bgp-hostname-capability-00 Randy Bush
- Re: [Idr] draft-walton-bgp-hostname-capability-00 deleskie
- Re: [Idr] draft-walton-bgp-hostname-capability-00 Jeff Haas
- Re: [Idr] draft-walton-bgp-hostname-capability-00 Randy Bush
- Re: [Idr] draft-walton-bgp-hostname-capability-00 Daniel Walton
- Re: [Idr] draft-walton-bgp-hostname-capability-00 Robert Raszuk
- Re: [Idr] draft-walton-bgp-hostname-capability-00 Dinesh Dutt
- Re: [Idr] draft-walton-bgp-hostname-capability-00 Robert Raszuk
- Re: [Idr] draft-walton-bgp-hostname-capability-00 Dinesh Dutt
- Re: [Idr] draft-walton-bgp-hostname-capability-00 Thomas Mangin
- Re: [Idr] draft-walton-bgp-hostname-capability-00 Robert Raszuk
- Re: [Idr] draft-walton-bgp-hostname-capability-00 Rajiv Asati (rajiva)
- Re: [Idr] draft-walton-bgp-hostname-capability-00 Rajiv Asati (rajiva)
- Re: [Idr] draft-walton-bgp-hostname-capability-00 Daniel Walton
- Re: [Idr] draft-walton-bgp-hostname-capability-00 Robert Raszuk
- Re: [Idr] draft-walton-bgp-hostname-capability-00 Thomas Mangin
- Re: [Idr] draft-walton-bgp-hostname-capability-00 John Heasley
- Re: [Idr] draft-walton-bgp-hostname-capability-00 Nick Hilliard
- Re: [Idr] draft-walton-bgp-hostname-capability-00 Daniel Walton
- Re: [Idr] draft-walton-bgp-hostname-capability-00 Thomas Mangin
- Re: [Idr] draft-walton-bgp-hostname-capability-00 Dinesh Dutt
- Re: [Idr] draft-walton-bgp-hostname-capability-00 Dinesh Dutt
- Re: [Idr] draft-walton-bgp-hostname-capability-00 Dinesh Dutt
- Re: [Idr] draft-walton-bgp-hostname-capability-00 Job Snijders
- Re: [Idr] draft-walton-bgp-hostname-capability-00 Randy Bush
- Re: [Idr] draft-walton-bgp-hostname-capability-00 Dinesh Dutt
- Re: [Idr] draft-walton-bgp-hostname-capability-00 Randy Bush
- Re: [Idr] draft-walton-bgp-hostname-capability-00 Curtis Villamizar
- Re: [Idr] draft-walton-bgp-hostname-capability-00 jim deleskie
- Re: [Idr] draft-walton-bgp-hostname-capability-00 Randy Bush
- Re: [Idr] draft-walton-bgp-hostname-capability-00 Christopher Morrow
- Re: [Idr] draft-walton-bgp-hostname-capability-00 John Heasley
- Re: [Idr] draft-walton-bgp-hostname-capability-00 Thomas Mangin
- Re: [Idr] draft-walton-bgp-hostname-capability-00 Randy Bush
- Re: [Idr] draft-walton-bgp-hostname-capability-00 Thomas Mangin
- Re: [Idr] draft-walton-bgp-hostname-capability-00 Robert Raszuk
- Re: [Idr] draft-walton-bgp-hostname-capability-00 heasley
- Re: [Idr] draft-walton-bgp-hostname-capability-00 Dinesh Dutt
- Re: [Idr] draft-walton-bgp-hostname-capability-00 Dinesh Dutt
- Re: [Idr] draft-walton-bgp-hostname-capability-00 Thomas Mangin
- Re: [Idr] draft-walton-bgp-hostname-capability-00 Thomas Mangin
- Re: [Idr] draft-walton-bgp-hostname-capability-00 Robert Raszuk
- Re: [Idr] draft-walton-bgp-hostname-capability-00 Thomas Mangin
- Re: [Idr] draft-walton-bgp-hostname-capability-00 Ćukasz Bromirski
- Re: [Idr] draft-walton-bgp-hostname-capability-00 Daniel Walton
- Re: [Idr] draft-walton-bgp-hostname-capability-00 Daniel Walton
- Re: [Idr] draft-walton-bgp-hostname-capability-00 Daniel Walton
- Re: [Idr] draft-walton-bgp-hostname-capability-00 Daniel Walton
- Re: [Idr] draft-walton-bgp-hostname-capability-00 Acee Lindem (acee)
- Re: [Idr] draft-walton-bgp-hostname-capability-00 Thomas Mangin
- Re: [Idr] draft-walton-bgp-hostname-capability-00 Curtis Villamizar
- Re: [Idr] draft-walton-bgp-hostname-capability-00 Randy Bush
- Re: [Idr] draft-walton-bgp-hostname-capability-00 Curtis Villamizar
- Re: [Idr] draft-walton-bgp-hostname-capability-00 Christopher Morrow
- Re: [Idr] draft-walton-bgp-hostname-capability-00 Dongjie (Jimmy)
- Re: [Idr] draft-walton-bgp-hostname-capability-00 Hannes Gredler
- Re: [Idr] draft-walton-bgp-hostname-capability-00 bruno.decraene
- Re: [Idr] draft-walton-bgp-hostname-capability-00 Nick Hilliard
- Re: [Idr] draft-walton-bgp-hostname-capability-00 Neil J. McRae
- Re: [Idr] draft-walton-bgp-hostname-capability-00 Jeffrey Haas
- Re: [Idr] draft-walton-bgp-hostname-capability-00 Daniel Walton
- Re: [Idr] draft-walton-bgp-hostname-capability-00 Dongjie (Jimmy)
- Re: [Idr] draft-walton-bgp-hostname-capability-00 Jon Mitchell