Re: [Idr] Adoption call for draft-dawra-idr-bgpls-srv6-ext [5/2 - 5/16/2018]
Robert Raszuk <robert@raszuk.net> Tue, 04 June 2019 13:46 UTC
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Date: Tue, 04 Jun 2019 15:45:46 +0200
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Subject: Re: [Idr] Adoption call for draft-dawra-idr-bgpls-srv6-ext [5/2 - 5/16/2018]
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Hi Sue, > As to the 99% of BGP-LS, that’s a question the chairs and ADs tried to > ask the WG in 2018. The WG did not engage on that discussion. > I reread the IDR charter ,,, https://datatracker.ietf.org/wg/idr/about/ I did not find anything there which would justify any of the work related to BGP-LS needs in this WG for example - topology or link state information transport. IMO AD should recognize the need for various non routing information transport and steer this towards BOF and new WG creation to define new protocol for it.. Even if rather from scratch such effort would reuse some of the BGP features. And while it was not done up front it is not too late now. In order to protect the BGP stream, the ADs/Chairs pushed for > draft-ketana-rfc7752bis.txt (for improved error handling) and larger BGP > messages (see raft-ietf-idr-bgp-extended-messages-30.txt). > Improving error handling is always good. But how making the message larger helps to protect the BGP stream ? Its like opening the window wider when cloud of wild insects approaches .... Best, R.
- [Idr] Adoption call for draft-dawra-idr-bgpls-srv… Susan Hares
- Re: [Idr] Adoption call for draft-dawra-idr-bgpls… Ketan Talaulikar (ketant)
- Re: [Idr] Adoption call for draft-dawra-idr-bgpls… Gaurav Dawra
- Re: [Idr] Adoption call for draft-dawra-idr-bgpls… Nikos Triantafillis
- Re: [Idr] Adoption call for draft-dawra-idr-bgpls… Acee Lindem (acee)
- Re: [Idr] Adoption call for draft-dawra-idr-bgpls… Krishna Muddenahally Ananthamurthy (kriswamy)
- Re: [Idr] Adoption call for draft-dawra-idr-bgpls… Zafar Ali (zali)
- Re: [Idr] Adoption call for draft-dawra-idr-bgpls… Kausik Majumdar (kmajumda)
- Re: [Idr] Adoption call for draft-dawra-idr-bgpls… Swadesh Agrawal (swaagraw)
- Re: [Idr] Adoption call for draft-dawra-idr-bgpls… Satya Mohanty (satyamoh)
- Re: [Idr] Adoption call for draft-dawra-idr-bgpls… Peter Psenak
- Re: [Idr] Adoption call for draft-dawra-idr-bgpls… Mankamana Mishra (mankamis)
- Re: [Idr] Adoption call for draft-dawra-idr-bgpls… Mercia Zheng (merciaz)
- Re: [Idr] Adoption call for draft-dawra-idr-bgpls… Zhuangshunwan
- Re: [Idr] Adoption call for draft-dawra-idr-bgpls… Lizhenbin
- Re: [Idr] Adoption call for draft-dawra-idr-bgpls… Les Ginsberg (ginsberg)
- Re: [Idr] Adoption call for draft-dawra-idr-bgpls… Jeff Tantsura
- Re: [Idr] Adoption call for draft-dawra-idr-bgpls… bruno.decraene
- Re: [Idr] Adoption call for draft-dawra-idr-bgpls… Susan Hares
- Re: [Idr] Adoption call for draft-dawra-idr-bgpls… Ketan Talaulikar (ketant)
- Re: [Idr] Adoption call for draft-dawra-idr-bgpls… tom petch
- Re: [Idr] Adoption call for draft-dawra-idr-bgpls… Susan Hares
- Re: [Idr] Adoption call for draft-dawra-idr-bgpls… Christoph Loibl
- Re: [Idr] Adoption call for draft-dawra-idr-bgpls… Robert Raszuk
- Re: [Idr] Adoption call for draft-dawra-idr-bgpls… Susan Hares
- Re: [Idr] Adoption call for draft-dawra-idr-bgpls… Susan Hares
- Re: [Idr] Adoption call for draft-dawra-idr-bgpls… tom petch
- Re: [Idr] Adoption call for draft-dawra-idr-bgpls… Susan Hares
- Re: [Idr] Adoption call for draft-dawra-idr-bgpls… Robert Raszuk
- Re: [Idr] Adoption call for draft-dawra-idr-bgpls… Susan Hares
- [Idr] IDR WG Charter (Re: Adoption call for draft… Alvaro Retana
- Re: [Idr] IDR WG Charter (Re: Adoption call for d… Robert Raszuk
- Re: [Idr] IDR WG Charter (Re: Adoption call for d… John Scudder
- Re: [Idr] IDR WG Charter (Re: Adoption call for d… Robert Raszuk
- Re: [Idr] IDR WG Charter (Re: Adoption call for d… Alvaro Retana
- Re: [Idr] IDR WG Charter (Re: Adoption call for d… Susan Hares