[Idr] Re: WG LC for draft-ietf-idr-deprecate-as-set-confed-set-14 (7/8 to 7/ - call continues from 7/8 to 7/26/2024

Randy Bush <randy@psg.com> Wed, 24 July 2024 17:30 UTC

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>>> As written, the current text says you're non-conformant if you ever
>>> generate as-sets.  Would you be supportive of the MUST being "MUST NOT
>>> generate as-sets by default"?  I.e., a change of default behavior?
>> 
>> s/default/without explicit configuration contradicting this
>> specification/
> 
> I'd be fine with that.

my suggestion was horribly worded.

randy