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Greetings:

The WG LC for draft-ietf-idr-sr-policy-nrp-03 is closed.  Two posts raised questions about cross-WG interactions
with Spring, TEAS, and MPLS.

Zafar Ali:
https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/idr/hKkTrqap4T4PxTPrFKyfYsl1yKk/

And Stephane
https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/idr/5Puky_VmsAhHGp1bEIqwVnPBSDc/

Please see Adrian's response at
https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/idr/vIt9XZ5p7QTfSUy5XIEwBuOvmI4/

As well as the full conversation thread:
https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/idr/MsMiPqRTmOfG7mkvtJd_8n2hC-0/


The IDR chairs are consulting the Spring WG and Spring Chairs about Spring-IDR dependencies.
As the WG chair shepherding this draft, you are welcome to send me your comments
(by responding to this thread or sending me a private email).

In my reading as the Shepherd for this draft, I do not find the logical NRP-Id needs to be dependent
(normative reference) on the SRv6 data plane ID ( draft-ietf-6man-enhanced-vpn-vtn-id<https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-6man-enhanced-vpn-vtn-id> as
normative reference) or the  SR-MPLS ID.   If you disagree with me, please respond to this email.

Based on Adrian's mail, I do not find any TEAS WG dependency issues.  Of course, I will check with the TEAS chairs.

Cheerily, Sue Hares

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