Re: [Idr] I-D Action: draft-ietf-idr-rs-bfd-03.txt

Jeffrey Haas <jhaas@pfrc.org> Thu, 06 July 2017 20:40 UTC

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Your strawman is about to file a domestic violence restraining order.

These are not our use cases.  If you'd like one, feel free to write a draft covering those.

The draft simply proxies information related to BGP's reachability condition for a nexthop.  If this was full-mesh, the game would be different.  If this was a RR, this would be different.  The RS is (mostly) exceptional in this case.


-- Jeff

> On Jul 6, 2017, at 4:36 PM, Jakob Heitz (jheitz) <jheitz@cisco.com> wrote:
> 
> The draft proposes to filter paths from best-path selection
> based upon nexthop reachability.
>  
> Why stop at reachability?
>  
> A client may not wish to accept routes from another client, because
> they don't have a contract or whatever reason.
> Can we include the ASN of the nexthop with each nexthop?
>  
> Other possible reasons for not wanting a route:
> . The AS-path contains an undesirable ASN.
> . The origin AS does not have the right to advertise the prefix.
> . I prefer a customer route over a peer route.
> . The route is a leak.
> . Etc, Etc.
>  
> Can you put the whole attribute set into the ReachAsk/ReachTell
> rather than just the nexthop?
>  
> Heck, why don't you just send the complete route --> Add-path.
>  
> Thanks,
> Jakob.
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