[Idr] Can we have the IPSEC related drafts discussion before Friday during IETF 105?

Linda Dunbar <linda.dunbar@futurewei.com> Mon, 01 July 2019 16:04 UTC

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From: Linda Dunbar <linda.dunbar@futurewei.com>
To: Susan Hares <shares@ndzh.com>, "idr@ietf.org" <idr@ietf.org>, "bess@ietf.org" <bess@ietf.org>, Paul Wouters <paul@nohats.ca>, Yoav Nir <ynir.ietf@gmail.com>
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Subject: [Idr] Can we have the IPSEC related drafts discussion before Friday during IETF 105?
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Hope we can have a face to face meeting discussing IPSEC related drafts in IETF105.
I have hard conflict for Friday July 26.

Can we have the discussion anytime before Friday during IETF105?

Thank you very much.

Linda Dunbar

From: Idr <idr-bounces@ietf.org> On Behalf Of Susan Hares
Sent: Monday, June 10, 2019 2:14 PM
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Subject: [Idr] Issue 1: IPSEC related drafts

Greetings:

At IETF 104, we consider BGP VPNs supporting asking for TLVS in draft-ietf-idr-tunnel-encaps.    After hearing all the discussion, the BESS, IDR and I2RS WG chairs discussed what to do with the following

Drafts considered:

  *   draft-sajassi-bess-secure-evpn-01.txt,
  *   draft-hujun-idr-bgp-ipsec-00.txt,
  *   draft-dunbar-idr-sdwan-port-safi-01.txt
relating drafts/ Supporting drafts:

  *   draft-carrell-ipsecme-controller-ike-00.txt
  *   draft-ietf-i2nsf-sdn-ipsec-flow-protection-04.txt
  *   draft-ietf-idr-tunnel-encaps-12.txt
Basic topologies:
                       Ipsec tunnels
     [rtrA] -------------------- [rtrB]
         |     \                           /      |
         |       \ -- RR1 -------/     | ipsec tunnels
         |    / -----| |------\         |
     [rtrC]------------------- [rtrD]


The decision is that

  *   TLVs mechanisms for new TLVS related draft-ietf-idr-tunnel-encaps should be moved to drafts with just the mechanisms.
     *   All three mechanisms could be included in the TLVs or portions.
     *   The use case and the SA mechanisms can stay in BESS or IDR (depending on what is appropriate).
  *   The RTG Chairs are not experts on Security associations, so that we will try to schedule a unique session at IETF 105 where security experts can help the RTG chairs (BESS, IDR) review the Security association mechanisms.
     *   We'd love to have the second co-chair of I2NSF (Yoav NIR) and someone from IPSECME.
     *   We'll invite IPSEC experts.
     *   We encourage the authors of the 3 drafts to attend this session in IETF 105 and present their security-association mechanisms.
  *   The NLRI/SAFI in draft-dunbar-idr-sdwan-port-safi is unique and can be requested as IDR or ISE draft.
This email has two request:

  *   WG or authors please send any questions to Susan Hares,
  *   The IDR WG is encouraged to discuss requirements or needs in preparation for the TLV selection, and
  *   Please help me secure 2 IPSEC experts to attend this session.

Susan Hares