Re: [Idr] WG LC - draft-ietf-idr-flowspec-nvo3-12 - Technology only (2/4/2020 to 2/18/2020).
Gyan Mishra <hayabusagsm@gmail.com> Sat, 20 February 2021 19:22 UTC
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From: Gyan Mishra <hayabusagsm@gmail.com>
Date: Sat, 20 Feb 2021 14:22:13 -0500
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Subject: Re: [Idr] WG LC - draft-ietf-idr-flowspec-nvo3-12 - Technology only (2/4/2020 to 2/18/2020).
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Thanks Donald. This document is ready for publication. Thanks Gyan On Fri, Feb 19, 2021 at 1:18 PM Donald Eastlake <d3e3e3@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi Gyan, > > On Fri, Feb 19, 2021 at 1:32 AM Gyan Mishra <hayabusagsm@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > Hi Sue > > > > I support publication of this document as a standard RFC. > > Thanks for your support. > > > Since this document supports GRE, IP in IP and L2TPv3, even though the > title states NVO3 overlays, should this draft really include all tunnel > types described in tunnel-encap-22 that would be applicable to flow spec > dissemination. If so the then maybe removal of NVO3 in the draft name and > change to tunneled traffic maybe appropriate. > > For historic reasons, the file name of this draft has "-nvo3-" in it. > The title of the document used to have NVO3 in it ("BGP Dissemination > of Network Virtualization Overlays (NVO3) Flow Specification Rules"). > That was true of versions -00 through -06. However, with version -07 > the title was changed to "BGP Dissemination of Flow Specification > Rules for Tunneled Traffic". It would, of course, be possible to > change the file name but the version number would have to be reset to > 00 which might be misleading. > > The only tunnel type specifically listed in > draft-ietf-idr-tunnel-encaps-22 that is not in > draft-ietf-idr-flowspec-nvo3-12 is MPLS-in-GRE. I'm not sure that is > needed as such. Certainly someone could generate DoS traffic at the > GRE level that said it has MPLS inside the GRE. Some modification of > flowspec-nvo3 to accommodate this would probably be a good idea but > there isn't any matching of MPLS stacks in any of BGP flowspec > currently. So, I think some improvement in the GRE tunnel provisions > in flowspec-nvo3 but I don't think taking on flowspec matching on MPLS > stacks is warranted. > > Thanks, > Donald > =============================== > Donald E. Eastlake 3rd +1-508-333-2270 (cell) > 2386 Panoramic Circle, Apopka, FL 32703 USA > d3e3e3@gmail.com > > > 1.) Does WG to standardize this technology with > > > > the IPR Statement (which appeared in 5/8/2020 after a modification > of the draft)? > > > > Yes > > > > 2) Is this approach to flow-specification for tunnels ready for > standardization? > > > > Yes > > > > 3) Would this technology inter-work with tunnels created by > > > > draft-ietf-idr-tunnel-encap-22.txt? > > > > Yes. I think it is very important for this document to support the > tunnel encap draft NVO overlay encapsulations. > > > > 4) Should this technology wait for a flow-specification v2? > > > > I don’t think so. As we are proceeding with modified WG LC without any > implementations i think in that light we can proceed to publish and not > wait for flow spec v2. At that time we can always to an bis update if > needed to the publication as necessary. > > > > Thank you > > > > > > Gyan > > > > > > On Thu, Feb 18, 2021 at 7:37 AM Dongjie (Jimmy) <jie.dong@huawei.com> > wrote: > >> > >> Hi Sue, > >> > >> > >> > >> I’ve reviewed this document and support its publication as standard RFC. > >> > >> > >> > >> Best regards, > >> > >> Jie > >> > >> > >> > >> From: Idr [mailto:idr-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Susan Hares > >> Sent: Thursday, February 4, 2021 11:52 PM > >> To: idr@ietf.org > >> Subject: [Idr] WG LC - draft-ietf-idr-flowspec-nvo3-12 - Technology > only (2/4/2020 to 2/18/2020). > >> > >> > >> > >> Greetings: > >> > >> > >> > >> This begins a modified draft-ietf-idr-flowspec-nvo3-12.txt. > >> > >> > >> > >> It is a modified WG LC because: > >> > >> 1) the WG still has to discussion where we make the cutoff for > flow-specification v2, > >> > >> 2) there are no implementation for this WG LC > >> > >> > >> > >> This WG LC should examine the following things: > >> > >> > >> > >> 1.) Does WG to standardize this technology with > >> > >> the IPR Statement (which appeared in 5/8/2020 after a modification > of the draft)? > >> > >> > >> > >> 2) Is this approach to flow-specification for tunnels ready for > standardization? > >> > >> > >> > >> 3) Would this technology inter-work with tunnels created by > >> > >> draft-ietf-idr-tunnel-encap-22.txt? > >> > >> > >> > >> 4) Should this technology wait for a flow-specification v2? > >> > >> > >> > >> Cheerily, Sue > >> > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Idr mailing list > >> Idr@ietf.org > >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/idr > > > > -- > > > > > > Gyan Mishra > > > > Network Solutions Architect > > > > M 301 502-1347 > > 13101 Columbia Pike > > Silver Spring, MD > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Idr mailing list > > Idr@ietf.org > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/idr > -- <http://www.verizon.com/> *Gyan Mishra* *Network Solutions A**rchitect * *M 301 502-134713101 Columbia Pike *Silver Spring, MD
- [Idr] WG LC - draft-ietf-idr-flowspec-nvo3-12 - T… Susan Hares
- Re: [Idr] WG LC - draft-ietf-idr-flowspec-nvo3-12… Donald Eastlake
- Re: [Idr] WG LC - draft-ietf-idr-flowspec-nvo3-12… Greg Mirsky
- Re: [Idr] WG LC - draft-ietf-idr-flowspec-nvo3-12… Donald Eastlake
- Re: [Idr] WG LC - draft-ietf-idr-flowspec-nvo3-12… Andrew G. Malis
- Re: [Idr] WG LC - draft-ietf-idr-flowspec-nvo3-12… Zhuangshunwan
- Re: [Idr] WG LC - draft-ietf-idr-flowspec-nvo3-12… Lizhenbin
- Re: [Idr] WG LC - draft-ietf-idr-flowspec-nvo3-12… Linda Dunbar
- [Idr] 回复: WG LC - draft-ietf-idr-flowspec-nvo3-12… 顾 戎
- Re: [Idr] WG LC - draft-ietf-idr-flowspec-nvo3-12… Aijun Wang
- Re: [Idr] WG LC - draft-ietf-idr-flowspec-nvo3-12… Chenshuanglong
- Re: [Idr] WG LC - draft-ietf-idr-flowspec-nvo3-12… Liyizhou
- Re: [Idr] WG LC - draft-ietf-idr-flowspec-nvo3-12… Dhruv Dhody
- Re: [Idr] WG LC - draft-ietf-idr-flowspec-nvo3-12… Dongjie (Jimmy)
- Re: [Idr] WG LC - draft-ietf-idr-flowspec-nvo3-12… Gyan Mishra
- Re: [Idr] WG LC - draft-ietf-idr-flowspec-nvo3-12… Donald Eastlake
- Re: [Idr] WG LC - draft-ietf-idr-flowspec-nvo3-12… Gyan Mishra