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Re: [Idr] draft-ietf-idr-route-leak-detection-mitigation

"Sriram, Kotikalapudi (Fed)" <kotikalapudi.sriram@nist.gov> Mon, 19 March 2018 23:06 UTC

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From: "Sriram, Kotikalapudi (Fed)" <kotikalapudi.sriram@nist.gov>
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Subject: Re: [Idr] draft-ietf-idr-route-leak-detection-mitigation
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>Regarding the discussion of this draft in the wg mtg with regard to
>revealing AS business relationships in the RLP,

>1) What ASes actually care about this given that CAIDA and others have
>demonstrated that these relationships can be inferred from DFZ RIBs?  Is
>this argument based on actual complaints within the last decade?

The draft was developed/discussed in GROW for a year before moving to IDR. 
Don’t recall that there were any actual complaints.    

>2) Can the terms just be changed to eliminate this argument?  Don't call it
>customer/peer/transit/complex, call it southbound-AS/east-west-AS/
>northbound-AS/kink-AS.

The draft kind of does that (page 7):

  For the purpose of route-leak detection and mitigation, the RLP field
   value MUST be set to one of two values as follows:

   o  0: This is the default value (i.e., "nothing specified"),

   o  1: This is the 'Do not Propagate Up or Lateral' indication; …

Thanks.

Sriram

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