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Subject: Re: [Idr] Adoption call for draft-ketant-idr-rfc7752bis-01.txt [8/8
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Ketan:

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Thank you for all your hard work on this important draft.=20

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Sue

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From: Idr [mailto:idr-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Ketan Talaulikar =
(ketant)
Sent: Saturday, September 14, 2019 9:15 AM
To: John Scudder; draft-ketant-idr-rfc7752bis@ietf.org; idr wg
Cc: Hares Susan
Subject: Re: [Idr] Adoption call for draft-ketant-idr-rfc7752bis-01.txt =
[8/8 to 8/22] - WG Consensus

=20

Hi All,

=20

The v01 of this draft would be posted shortly that includes updates for =
addressing the comments which were raised during the WG adoption call as =
well as those received during the IETF in Montreal. Would request review =
of these changes and feedback in case any comments still remain =
un-addressed or require further updates.

=20

The author list has also been updated after discussion between the =
authors and the chairs.

=20

Thanks,

Ketan (on behalf of co-authors)

=20

From: John Scudder <jgs@juniper.net>=20
Sent: 06 September 2019 03:07
To: Ketan Talaulikar (ketant) <ketant@cisco.com>; =
draft-ketant-idr-rfc7752bis@ietf.org
Cc: Hares Susan <shares@ndzh.com>; idr wg <idr@ietf.org>
Subject: Re: [Idr] Adoption call for draft-ketant-idr-rfc7752bis-01.txt =
[8/8 to 8/22] - WG Consensus

=20

Hi Ketan,=20

=20

I was reminded by the helpful WG chair approval tool that you have more =
than 5 authors listed. Here's the warning the tool throws:

=20

"This document has more than five authors listed, which is considered =
excessive under normal circumstances. If you plan to request publication =
as an RFC, this will require additional consideration by the stream =
manager (for example, the IESG), and publication may be declined unless =
sufficient justification is provided. See RFC 7322, section 4.1.1 for =
details.=E2=80=9D

=20

I=E2=80=99d appreciate it if the authors could come to some agreement to =
reduce the author list. One option is to list just a single editor on =
the front page and then you can list as may contributors as you like.=20

=20

While I await your update or reply, I=E2=80=99ll let the document remain =
in the approval queue.

=20

Thanks,

=20

=E2=80=94John

=20

On Sep 5, 2019, at 3:48 AM, Ketan Talaulikar (ketant) <ketant@cisco.com> =
wrote:

=20

Hi Sue,

=20

We have submitted the draft-ietf-idr-rfc7752bis-00 with the identical =
content as was adopted by the WG (i.e. draft-ketant-idr-rfc7752bis-01). =
This version would get posted after your approval.

=20

For all the comments, feedback and inputs received from the WG both =
during the IETF in Montreal and later during the adoption call, we will =
publish an updated version 01 next week.

=20

Would request WG participants to review the upcoming v01 and provide =
inputs if their points have not been adequately covered. We can then =
continue to work together further.

=20

Thanks,

Ketan (on behalf of co-authors)

=20

From: Idr < <mailto:idr-bounces@ietf.org> idr-bounces@ietf.org> On =
Behalf Of Susan Hares
Sent: 02 September 2019 23:37
To: 'idr wg' < <mailto:idr@ietf.org> idr@ietf.org>
Subject: Re: [Idr] Adoption call for draft-ketant-idr-rfc7752bis-01.txt =
[8/8 to 8/22] - WG Consensus

=20

Greetings:=20

=20

draft-ketant-idr-rfc7752bis-01.txt has been accepted as an IDR Working =
Group draft..

The authors should resubmit the draft as =
draft-ietf-idr-rfc7752bis-00.txt.

=20

I believe that all the questions from WG participants have been =
answered.=20

However, I am not sure if all questions from Nandan Saha and others have =
been answered.

If you feel your comments or questions have not been answered, please =
respond to

this email.   =20

=20

Cheerily, Susan Hares

=20

=20

From: Idr [ <mailto:idr-bounces@ietf.org> mailto:idr-bounces@ietf.org] =
On Behalf Of Susan Hares
Sent: Thursday, August 8, 2019 3:31 PM
To: 'idr wg'
Subject: [Idr] Adoption call for draft-ketant-idr-rfc7752bis-01.txt [8/8 =
to 8/22]

=20

This begins a 2 week adoption call for =
draft-ketant-idr-rfc7752bis-01.txt [8/8 to 8/22/2019]

=20

In your comments please indicate =E2=80=9Csupport=E2=80=9D or =
=E2=80=9Cno support=E2=80=9D. =20

=20

The chair and AD feel that a revision to RFC7752 is needed

to specify additional error handling.  Please consider

if this draft is a good place to start for this revision.

=20

Cheerily, Susan Hares=20

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vlink=3Dpurple><div class=3DWordSection1><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:#1F497D'>Ketan:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'color:#1F497D'>Thank you for all your =
hard work on this important draft. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:#1F497D'>Sue<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><div><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span>=
</b><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> =
Idr [mailto:idr-bounces@ietf.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Ketan Talaulikar =
(ketant)<br><b>Sent:</b> Saturday, September 14, 2019 9:15 =
AM<br><b>To:</b> John Scudder; draft-ketant-idr-rfc7752bis@ietf.org; idr =
wg<br><b>Cc:</b> Hares Susan<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Idr] Adoption call =
for draft-ketant-idr-rfc7752bis-01.txt [8/8 to 8/22] - WG =
Consensus<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-IN>Hi All,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-IN><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-IN>The v01 of this draft would be posted shortly that includes =
updates for addressing the comments which were raised during the WG =
adoption call as well as those received during the IETF in Montreal. =
Would request review of these changes and feedback in case any comments =
still remain un-addressed or require further =
updates.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-IN><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-IN>The author list has also been updated after discussion =
between the authors and the chairs.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-IN><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-IN>Thanks,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-IN>Ketan (on behalf of =
co-authors)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-IN><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><div><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b>From:</b> John Scudder =
&lt;jgs@juniper.net&gt; <br><b>Sent:</b> 06 September 2019 =
03:07<br><b>To:</b> Ketan Talaulikar (ketant) &lt;ketant@cisco.com&gt;; =
draft-ketant-idr-rfc7752bis@ietf.org<br><b>Cc:</b> Hares Susan =
&lt;shares@ndzh.com&gt;; idr wg &lt;idr@ietf.org&gt;<br><b>Subject:</b> =
Re: [Idr] Adoption call for draft-ketant-idr-rfc7752bis-01.txt [8/8 to =
8/22] - WG Consensus<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-IN><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-IN>Hi Ketan, =
<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-IN><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-IN>I was reminded by the helpful WG =
chair approval tool that you have more than 5 authors listed. Here's the =
warning the tool throws:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-IN><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-IN>&quot;This document has more than =
five authors listed, which is considered excessive under =
normal&nbsp;circumstances.&nbsp;If you plan to request publication as an =
RFC, this will require additional consideration by the&nbsp;stream =
manager (for example, the IESG), and publication may be declined unless =
sufficient justification is&nbsp;provided. See&nbsp;RFC 7322, section =
4.1.1&nbsp;for details.=E2=80=9D<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-IN><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-IN>I=E2=80=99d appreciate it if the =
authors could come to some agreement to reduce the author list. One =
option is to list just a single editor on the front page and then you =
can list as may contributors as you =
like.&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-IN><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-IN>While I await your update or reply, =
I=E2=80=99ll let the document remain in the approval =
queue.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-IN><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-IN>Thanks,<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-IN><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-IN>=E2=80=94John<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span =
lang=3DEN-IN><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><blockquote =
style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-IN>On Sep 5, 2019, at 3:48 AM, Ketan =
Talaulikar (ketant) &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:ketant@cisco.com">ketant@cisco.com</a>&gt; =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-IN><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-IN>Hi =
Sue,<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-IN>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-IN>We have submitted the =
draft-ietf-idr-rfc7752bis-00 with the identical content as was adopted =
by the WG (i.e. draft-ketant-idr-rfc7752bis-01). This version would get =
posted after your approval.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-IN>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-IN>For all the comments, feedback and =
inputs received from the WG both during the IETF in Montreal and later =
during the adoption call, we will publish an updated version 01 next =
week.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-IN>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-IN>Would request WG participants to =
review the upcoming v01 and provide inputs if their points have not been =
adequately covered. We can then continue to work together =
further.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-IN>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-IN>Thanks,<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-IN>Ketan (on behalf of =
co-authors)<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-IN>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in'><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><b>From:</b><span =
class=3Dapple-converted-space>&nbsp;</span>Idr &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:idr-bounces@ietf.org"><span =
style=3D'color:purple'>idr-bounces@ietf.org</span></a>&gt;<span =
class=3Dapple-converted-space>&nbsp;</span><b>On Behalf Of<span =
class=3Dapple-converted-space>&nbsp;</span></b>Susan =
Hares<br><b>Sent:</b><span class=3Dapple-converted-space>&nbsp;</span>02 =
September 2019 23:37<br><b>To:</b><span =
class=3Dapple-converted-space>&nbsp;</span>'idr wg' &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:idr@ietf.org"><span =
style=3D'color:purple'>idr@ietf.org</span></a>&gt;<br><b>Subject:</b><spa=
n class=3Dapple-converted-space>&nbsp;</span>Re: [Idr] Adoption call for =
draft-ketant-idr-rfc7752bis-01.txt [8/8 to 8/22] - WG Consensus<span =
lang=3DEN-IN><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-IN>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'color:#1F497D'>Greetings:<span =
class=3Dapple-converted-space>&nbsp;</span></span><span =
lang=3DEN-IN><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:#1F497D'>&nbsp;</span><span =
lang=3DEN-IN><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:#1F497D'>draft-ketant-idr-rfc7752bis-01.txt has been =
accepted as an IDR Working Group draft..</span><span =
lang=3DEN-IN><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:#1F497D'>The authors should resubmit the draft as =
draft-ietf-idr-rfc7752bis-00.txt.</span><span =
lang=3DEN-IN><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:#1F497D'>&nbsp;</span><span =
lang=3DEN-IN><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:#1F497D'>I believe that all the questions from WG =
participants have been answered.&nbsp;</span><span =
lang=3DEN-IN><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:#1F497D'>However, I am not sure if all questions from =
Nandan Saha and others have been answered.</span><span =
lang=3DEN-IN><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:#1F497D'>If you feel your comments or questions have not =
been answered, please respond to</span><span =
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style=3D'color:#1F497D'>Cheerily, Susan Hares</span><span =
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style=3D'color:#1F497D'>&nbsp;</span><span =
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Hares<br><b>Sent:</b><span =
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PM<br><b>To:</b><span class=3Dapple-converted-space>&nbsp;</span>'idr =
wg'<br><b>Subject:</b><span =
class=3Dapple-converted-space>&nbsp;</span>[Idr] Adoption call for =
draft-ketant-idr-rfc7752bis-01.txt [8/8 to 8/22]</span><span =
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begins a 2 week adoption call for draft-ketant-idr-rfc7752bis-01.txt =
[8/8 to 8/22/2019]<span lang=3DEN-IN><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
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class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;<span =
lang=3DEN-IN><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>The =
chair and AD feel that a revision to RFC7752 is needed<span =
lang=3DEN-IN><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>to =
specify additional error handling. &nbsp;Please consider<span =
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this draft is a good place to start for this revision.<span =
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