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Hi Melchior

Thanks for the quick response!

For both inbound and outbound direction we have today the option to set
prefix limit and threshold for the peer disconnect scenario, so now we
would add a 3rd parameter is your suggestion.

I agree and that makes sense.  With this option when the limit hits and we
are clipping over the limit it would be possible to also do the warning
flag with it so we are logging when clipping and maybe even number of
routes clipped in the log message.

If you have a GitHub for the draft I would be happy to co-author the draft
and provide any additional feedback.

Kind Regards


Gyan
On Wed, Sep 30, 2020 at 12:27 PM Melchior Aelmans <melchior@aelmans.eu>
wrote:

> Hi Gyan,
>
> Thanks for the feedback!
> Good point and agreed this could be useful. Would you be okay with having
> this as an additional action next to shutdown?
>
> Cheers,
> Melchior
>
> On Wed, Sep 30, 2020 at 4:53 PM Gyan Mishra <hayabusagsm@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi Authors
>>
>>
>> Would it be possible to modify the action so that we have the option to
>> not disconnect the peer and allow the peer to remain UP state but clip the
>> routes above the upper limit and provide this option for both inbound and
>> outbound directions.  This was the PE resources are not impacted as well as
>> the customer peer still remains in an Up state.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Gyan
>>
>> On Wed, Sep 30, 2020 at 9:34 AM Melchior Aelmans <melchior@aelmans.eu>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi IDR,
>>>
>>> As suggested in earlier WG meetings (both in GROW and IDR) we have split
>>> the Maximum Prefix Limits draft
>>> <https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-sa-grow-maxprefix/> into Maximum
>>> Prefix Limits Outbound
>>> <https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-sas-idr-maxprefix-outbound/>
>>>  and Maximum Prefix Limits Inbound
>>> <https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-sas-idr-maxprefix-inbound/>.
>>> The authors are looking for your feedback and input on both.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Melchior
>>>
>>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------
>>> From: <internet-drafts@ietf.org>
>>> Date: Wed, Sep 30, 2020 at 3:27 PM
>>> Subject: I-D Action: draft-sas-idr-maxprefix-outbound-00.txt
>>> To: <i-d-announce@ietf.org>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts
>>> directories.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>         Title           : Revised BGP Maximum Prefix Limits Outbound
>>>
>>>
>>>         Authors         : Melchior Aelmans
>>>
>>>
>>>                           Massimiliano Stucchi
>>>
>>>
>>>                           Job Snijders
>>>
>>>
>>>         Filename        : draft-sas-idr-maxprefix-outbound-00.txt
>>>
>>>
>>>         Pages           : 9
>>>
>>>
>>>         Date            : 2020-09-30
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Abstract:
>>>
>>>
>>>    This document updates RFC4271 by adding a control mechanism which
>>>
>>>
>>>    limits the negative impact of outbound route leaks (RFC7908) in order
>>>
>>>
>>>    to prevent resource exhaustion in Border Gateway Protocol (BGP)
>>>
>>>
>>>    implementations.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is:
>>>
>>>
>>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-sas-idr-maxprefix-outbound/
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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<div><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">Hi Melchior</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></d=
iv><div dir=3D"auto">Thanks for the quick response!</div><div dir=3D"auto">=
<br></div><div dir=3D"auto">For both inbound and outbound direction we have=
 today the option to set prefix limit and threshold for the peer disconnect=
 scenario, so now we would add a 3rd parameter is your suggestion. =C2=A0</=
div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">I agree and that makes se=
nse.=C2=A0 With this option when the limit hits and we are clipping over th=
e limit it would be possible to also do the warning flag with it so we are =
logging when clipping and maybe even number of routes clipped in the log me=
ssage.</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">If you have a Git=
Hub for the draft I would be happy to co-author the draft and provide any a=
dditional feedback. =C2=A0</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"aut=
o">Kind Regards=C2=A0</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto"><b=
r></div><div dir=3D"auto">Gyan<br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"lt=
r" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Wed, Sep 30, 2020 at 12:27 PM Melchior Aelmans &=
lt;<a href=3D"mailto:melchior@aelmans.eu">melchior@aelmans.eu</a>&gt; wrote=
:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.=
8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex;border-l=
eft-color:rgb(204,204,204)"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Hi Gyan,</div><div><br></=
div><div>Thanks for the feedback!=C2=A0</div><div>Good point and agreed thi=
s could be useful. Would you be okay with having this as an additional acti=
on next to shutdown?</div><div><br></div><div>Cheers,</div><div>Melchior</d=
iv></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" c=
lass=3D"gmail_attr">On Wed, Sep 30, 2020 at 4:53 PM Gyan Mishra &lt;<a href=
=3D"mailto:hayabusagsm@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">hayabusagsm@gmail.com</=
a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0p=
x 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;padding-left:=
1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204)"><div dir=3D"auto">Hi Authors=C2=A0<=
/div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"au=
to">Would it be possible to modify the action so that we have the option to=
 not disconnect the peer and allow the peer to remain UP state but clip the=
 routes above the upper limit and provide this option for both inbound and =
outbound directions.=C2=A0 This was the PE resources are not impacted as we=
ll as the customer peer still remains in an Up state. =C2=A0=C2=A0</div><di=
v dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">Thanks=C2=A0</div><div dir=3D"au=
to"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">Gyan</div><div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quot=
e"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Wed, Sep 30, 2020 at 9:34 AM Me=
lchior Aelmans &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:melchior@aelmans.eu" target=3D"_blank"=
>melchior@aelmans.eu</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quo=
te" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-sty=
le:solid;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204)"><div dir=3D"l=
tr">Hi IDR,<div><br>As suggested in earlier WG meetings (both in GROW and I=
DR) we have split the <a href=3D"https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-sa-=
grow-maxprefix/" target=3D"_blank">Maximum Prefix Limits draft</a>=C2=A0int=
o=C2=A0<a href=3D"https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-sas-idr-maxprefix-=
outbound/" target=3D"_blank">Maximum Prefix Limits Outbound</a>=C2=A0and=C2=
=A0<a href=3D"https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-sas-idr-maxprefix-inbo=
und/" target=3D"_blank">Maximum Prefix Limits Inbound</a>.</div><div>The au=
thors are looking for your feedback and input on both.</div><div><br></div>=
<div>Thanks,</div><div>Melchior</div><div><div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quot=
e"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">---------- Forwarded message -----=
----<br>From: <span dir=3D"auto">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:internet-drafts@ietf=
.org" target=3D"_blank">internet-drafts@ietf.org</a>&gt;</span><br>Date: We=
d, Sep 30, 2020 at 3:27 PM<br>Subject: I-D Action: draft-sas-idr-maxprefix-=
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w Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories.=
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 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0: Revised BGP Maximum Prefix Limits Outb=
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atatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-sas-idr-maxprefix-outbound/" rel=3D"noreferre=
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