Re: [Idr] I-D Action: draft-ietf-idr-deprecate-as-set-confed-set-02.txt
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From: "Hannachi, Lilia (IntlAssoc)" <lilia.hannachi@nist.gov>
To: Jeffrey Haas <jhaas@pfrc.org>, "alejandroacostaalamo@gmail.com" <alejandroacostaalamo@gmail.com>
CC: Sander Steffann <sander@steffann.nl>, "idr@ietf.org" <idr@ietf.org>, Warren Kumari <warren@kumari.net>, "Sriram, Kotikalapudi (Fed)" <kotikalapudi.sriram@nist.gov>
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Subject: Re: [Idr] I-D Action: draft-ietf-idr-deprecate-as-set-confed-set-02.txt
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Jeff,
>
> In IPv6, we shouldn't have any motivation to do aggregation in the
> traditional sense. Have you done any analysis of the prefixes involved in
> that IPv6 aggregation?
>
Earlier we (NIST) had shared the analysis for IPv4.
Listed below is the AS_SET analysis for IPv6.
Please let me know if you have any further questions.
Lilia
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AS_SET ANALYSIS (OREGON6 2019-10-03:00)
The Routeviews OREGON6 collector peers with (23) ASes
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Summary (for IPv6)
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Total # Updates : 155659
# Updates with AS_SET : 38
Percentage of routes with AS_SET : 0.024%
# Total # ASes (globally) : 18027
# ASes that create updates with AS_SET : 27
Percentage of ASes that create updates with AS_SET : 0.15%
# Routes with AS_SET (after eliminating AS path redundancy): 38
Explanation: These are routes with unique {prefix, AS_SET, 1st AS after AS_SET, AGGREGATOR} combinations.
Out of the 38 routes with AS_SETs:
*** Routes with AS_SET that seem meaningless or malformed ***
# Routes with only one AS in AS_SET : 26
# Routes with Reserved ASN in AS_SET : 0
# Routes with common AS in the AS_SEQUENCE and AS_SET : 4
# Routes with repeated ASes in the AS_SET : 0
# Routes that are /48 prefix (aggregate) announcements : 6
Total # Routes that seem meaningless or malformed : 27
Total # Routes that seem meaningful : 11
Distribution of # unique ASes in the AS_SET : 1:26,2:7,3:1,4:3,8:1
# Routes with AS_SET where AGGREGATOR does not match the right most AS in AS_SEQUENCE : 1
# Routes with unique {prefix, AS_SET, AGGREGATOR} : 38
# Routes with unique {prefix, AS_SET} : 38
*** When there is AGGREGATOR without AS_SET ***
# Unique prefixes (with or without AS_SET) : 78625
# Unique prefixes without AS_SET but with AGGREGATOR: 8651
% Unique prefixes without AS_SET but with AGGREGATOR: 11.003%
# Unique prefixes with ATOMIC_AGGREGATE: 3823
# Unique prefixes with AGGREGATOR and ATOMIC_AGGREGATE: 3650
# Unique prefixes with AGGREGATOR and without ATOMIC_AGGREGATE: 5039
# Unique prefixes with AS_SET and ATOMIC_AGGREGATE: 2
*********************************************************************
List of ASes (AGGREGATOR) Ranked according to # Routes with AS_SET
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AS: 14080 # Routes with AS_SET: 4 Organization: Telmex Colombia S.A., CO
AS: 271 # Routes with AS_SET: 3 Organization: BCNET-AS - BCnet, CA
AS: 20940 # Routes with AS_SET: 3 Organization: AKAMAI-ASN1, US
AS: 9443 # Routes with AS_SET: 2 Organization: INTERNETPRIMUS-AS-AP Primus Telecommunications, AU
AS: 24158 # Routes with AS_SET: 2 Organization: TAIWANMOBILE-AS Taiwan Mobile Co., Ltd., TW
AS: 45147 # Routes with AS_SET: 2 Organization: NAPINFO-TRANSIT-AS-AP PT. NAP Info Lintas Nusa, ID
AS: 52320 # Routes with AS_SET: 2 Organization: GlobeNet Cabos Submarinos Colombia, S.A.S., CO
AS: 22 # Routes with AS_SET: 1 Organization: DNIC-AS-00022 - Navy Network Information Center (NNIC), US
AS: 8376 # Routes with AS_SET: 1 Organization: Jordan Data Communications, JO
AS: 8697 # Routes with AS_SET: 1 Organization: JTC-AS8697 Jordan Telecom Group ( JTG ), JO
AS: 47377 # Routes with AS_SET: 1 Organization: ORANGE_BELGIUM_SA KPN Belgium Business NV has been acquired by Mobistar, BE
AS: 65401 # Routes with AS_SET: 1 Organization: -Private Use AS-, ZZ
AS: 7160 # Routes with AS_SET: 1 Organization: NETDYNAMICS - Oracle Corporation, US
AS: 6509 # Routes with AS_SET: 1 Organization: CANARIE-NTN - Canarie Inc, CA
AS: 32440 # Routes with AS_SET: 1 Organization: LONI - Louisiana Board of Regents/Louisiana Optical Network Initiative (LONI), US
AS: 6364 # Routes with AS_SET: 1 Organization: ATLANTIC-NET-1 - Atlantic.net, Inc., US
AS: 27919 # Routes with AS_SET: 1 Organization: IXP ECUADOR, EC
AS: 8664 # Routes with AS_SET: 1 Organization: ICM-PUB public network services, PL
AS: 41943 # Routes with AS_SET: 1 Organization: VMI-KISTA, SE
AS: 41426 # Routes with AS_SET: 1 Organization: SAUDIDATASTC-AS, SA
AS: 203507 # Routes with AS_SET: 1 Organization: AVIRADE Kaplaneiweg 1, DE
AS: 44814 # Routes with AS_SET: 1 Organization: BTEL-BG-AS, BG
AS: 35548 # Routes with AS_SET: 1 Organization: SMARTTERRA-AS, DE
AS: 62917 # Routes with AS_SET: 1 Organization: GIGABITCO - Gigabit Communications, US
AS: 34056 # Routes with AS_SET: 1 Organization: KIEVNET KievNet ISP AS, UA
AS: 9924 # Routes with AS_SET: 1 Organization: TFN-TW Taiwan Fixed Network, Telco and Network Service Provider., TW
AS: 26281 # Routes with AS_SET: 1 Organization: RIML-CORP-AS-1 - BlackBerry Limited, CA
*********************************************************************
List of Routes with AS_SET that seem meaningless or malformed:
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2607:ffc0:1000::/36 209 6939 18705 26281 {13340}
2607:f170:50::/44 57463 6939 2828 18672 6364 {6364}
2001:6a0::/32 7018 6939 8664 {8890}
2607:f8f0:210::/44 57866 1299 6939 271 271 271 271 {26415}
2800:484::/32 57463 6939 3257 14080 {10620}
2a01:4a40::/32 37100 44814 {60974}
2402:7500:600::/40 57463 6939 3491 9924 24158 {131614}
2800:480::/32 57463 6939 3257 14080 {10620}
2a03:f600::/32 57463 6939 1299 3301 25146 41943 {34236}
2a00:1688::/32 57866 9002 34056 {201948}
2600:1408:9800::/48 209 6461 20940 20940 {16625}
2a02:26f0:e00::/48 57463 6939 6762 20940 20940 {21342}
2403:4800:9000::/36 57463 6939 4826 9443 {16625}
2600:140b:f000::/48 7018 1299 4637 4637 4637 4637 20940 20940 {21342}
2606:b400:8814::/48 57463 6939 3356 7160 {7160}
2403:4800::/48 57463 6939 4826 9443 {38285}
2a00:18d8::/32 57463 6939 5511 8697 {328126}
2803:a8a0::/32 7660 2516 6762 27947 27919 {27919,266802}
2800:485::/32 57463 6939 3257 14080 {10620}
2402:4640::/33 22652 4788 38044 {23736}
2402:7500:800::/40 57463 6939 3491 9924 24158 {131614}
2a01:9700::/32 57463 6939 8697 8376 {8376}
2a06:e380::/29 57866 1299 203507 203507 {206970}
2a00:6480::/32 57463 6939 35548 {29018}
2001:480:10::/48 57866 2914 668 22 {7224}
2a02:2578::/32 3277 6939 1299 39386 41426 {51375}
2a01:cc00::/32 57463 6939 5511 47377 {12493}
*********************************************************************
List of Routes with AS_SET that seem meaningful:
*********************************************************************
2404:c000::/32 1403 6939 7473 45147 {16625,17727,55818,64313}
2001:410::/32 3277 6939 6509 {271,7860,8111}
2800:b40::/32 57463 52320 {6939,18678,262220,262589}
2402:7500::/32 57463 6939 2914 9924 9924 9924 {24158,131614}
2404:c000::/33 7018 1299 45147 {16625,55818}
2607:f8f0::/32 57866 1299 577 271 271 271 271 {4476,16462,26415,393249}
2604:82c0::/32 57463 6939 33132 62917 {32451,54426}
2800:482::/32 40191 3257 14080 {10620,64250}
2803:6700::/32 31019 43531 52320 {2,3257,6762,6939,18747,19429,262220,263210}
2607:f390::/32 57463 6939 3356 32440 {2055,17244}
2607:f8f0:600::/40 57866 1299 577 271 271 271 271 {4476,393249}
*********************************************************************
List of All Routes with AS_SET by AGGREGATOR
*********************************************************************
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AGGREGATOR= 14080
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2800:482::/32 40191 3257 14080 {10620,64250} AGGREGATOR=14080
2800:484::/32 57463 6939 3257 14080 {10620} AGGREGATOR=14080
2800:480::/32 57463 6939 3257 14080 {10620} AGGREGATOR=14080
2800:485::/32 57463 6939 3257 14080 {10620} AGGREGATOR=14080
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AGGREGATOR= 271
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2607:f8f0:210::/44 57866 1299 6939 271 271 271 271 {26415} AGGREGATOR=271
2607:f8f0:600::/40 57866 1299 577 271 271 271 271 {4476,393249} AGGREGATOR=271
2607:f8f0::/32 57866 1299 577 271 271 271 271 {4476,16462,26415,393249} AGGREGATOR=271
***********************
AGGREGATOR= 20940
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2600:1408:9800::/48 209 6461 20940 20940 {16625} AGGREGATOR=20940
2600:140b:f000::/48 7018 1299 4637 4637 4637 4637 20940 20940 {21342} AGGREGATOR=20940
2a02:26f0:e00::/48 57463 6939 6762 20940 20940 {21342} AGGREGATOR=20940
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AGGREGATOR= 9443
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2403:4800::/48 57463 6939 4826 9443 {38285} AGGREGATOR=9443
2403:4800:9000::/36 57463 6939 4826 9443 {16625} AGGREGATOR=9443
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AGGREGATOR= 24158
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2402:7500:600::/40 57463 6939 3491 9924 24158 {131614} AGGREGATOR=24158
2402:7500:800::/40 57463 6939 3491 9924 24158 {131614} AGGREGATOR=24158
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AGGREGATOR= 45147
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2404:c000::/33 7018 1299 45147 {16625,55818} AGGREGATOR=45147
2404:c000::/32 1403 6939 7473 45147 {16625,17727,55818,64313} AGGREGATOR=45147
***********************
AGGREGATOR= 52320
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2803:6700::/32 31019 43531 52320 {2,3257,6762,6939,18747,19429,262220,263210} AGGREGATOR=52320
2800:b40::/32 57463 52320 {6939,18678,262220,262589} AGGREGATOR=52320
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AGGREGATOR= 22
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2001:480:10::/48 57866 2914 668 22 {7224} AGGREGATOR=22
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AGGREGATOR= 8376
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2a01:9700::/32 57463 6939 8697 8376 {8376} AGGREGATOR=8376
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AGGREGATOR= 8697
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2a00:18d8::/32 57463 6939 5511 8697 {328126} AGGREGATOR=8697
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AGGREGATOR= 47377
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2a01:cc00::/32 57463 6939 5511 47377 {12493} AGGREGATOR=47377
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AGGREGATOR= 65401
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2402:4640::/33 22652 4788 38044 {23736} AGGREGATOR=65401
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AGGREGATOR= 7160
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2606:b400:8814::/48 57463 6939 3356 7160 {7160} AGGREGATOR=7160
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AGGREGATOR= 6509
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2001:410::/32 3277 6939 6509 {271,7860,8111} AGGREGATOR=6509
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AGGREGATOR= 32440
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2607:f390::/32 57463 6939 3356 32440 {2055,17244} AGGREGATOR=32440
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AGGREGATOR= 6364
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2607:f170:50::/44 57463 6939 2828 18672 6364 {6364} AGGREGATOR=6364
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AGGREGATOR= 27919
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2803:a8a0::/32 7660 2516 6762 27947 27919 {27919,266802} AGGREGATOR=27919
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AGGREGATOR= 8664
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2001:6a0::/32 7018 6939 8664 {8890} AGGREGATOR=8664
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AGGREGATOR= 41943
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2a03:f600::/32 57463 6939 1299 3301 25146 41943 {34236} AGGREGATOR=41943
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AGGREGATOR= 41426
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2a02:2578::/32 3277 6939 1299 39386 41426 {51375} AGGREGATOR=41426
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AGGREGATOR= 203507
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2a06:e380::/29 57866 1299 203507 203507 {206970} AGGREGATOR=203507
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AGGREGATOR= 44814
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2a01:4a40::/32 37100 44814 {60974} AGGREGATOR=44814
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AGGREGATOR= 35548
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2a00:6480::/32 57463 6939 35548 {29018} AGGREGATOR=35548
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AGGREGATOR= 62917
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2604:82c0::/32 57463 6939 33132 62917 {32451,54426} AGGREGATOR=62917
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AGGREGATOR= 34056
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- [Idr] I-D Action: draft-ietf-idr-deprecate-as-set… internet-drafts
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- Re: [Idr] I-D Action: draft-ietf-idr-deprecate-as… Ondrej Zajicek
- Re: [Idr] I-D Action: draft-ietf-idr-deprecate-as… Jeffrey Haas
- Re: [Idr] I-D Action: draft-ietf-idr-deprecate-as… Sriram, Kotikalapudi (Fed)
- Re: [Idr] I-D Action: draft-ietf-idr-deprecate-as… Donatas Abraitis
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- Re: [Idr] I-D Action: draft-ietf-idr-deprecate-as… Alejandro Acosta
- Re: [Idr] I-D Action: draft-ietf-idr-deprecate-as… Jared Mauch
- Re: [Idr] I-D Action: draft-ietf-idr-deprecate-as… Jeffrey Haas
- Re: [Idr] I-D Action: draft-ietf-idr-deprecate-as… Hannachi, Lilia (IntlAssoc)