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Re: [Idr] The IDR WG has placed draft-spaghetti-idr-deprecate-8-9-10 in state "Candidate for WG Adoption"

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From: Susan Hares <shares@ndzh.com>
To: Nick Hilliard <nick@foobar.org>, IETF Secretariat <ietf-secretariat-reply@ietf.org>
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Subject: Re: [Idr] The IDR WG has placed draft-spaghetti-idr-deprecate-8-9-10 in state "Candidate for WG Adoption"
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Nick:

You have asked a good question that the IDR WG has struggled with.

Do we admit that the reality that shipping code has “squatters”
so that networks can detect squatters?

Or do we shame and name the squatters and deprecate the code
points?

Both end scenarios up with unusable code points for IANA Assignment.

I expect a lively discussion during the adoption process in IDR.
I hope that GROW will also discuss this topic at IETF-114.

Cheers, Sue

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Subject: Re: [Idr] The IDR WG has placed draft-spaghetti-idr-deprecate-8-9-10 in state "Candidate for WG Adoption"

IETF Secretariat wrote on 30/06/2022 14:42: > adoption scheduled tentatively for 7/25 to 8/12 is this wise? It could be argued that this validates the practice of squatting on codepoints. Nick  ‌  ‌  ‌  ‌
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IETF Secretariat wrote on 30/06/2022 14:42:

> adoption scheduled tentatively for 7/25 to 8/12



is this wise?  It could be argued that this validates the practice of

squatting on codepoints.



Nick

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